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I came here to say the same thing. But it reads much better in the original French.
I can’t help thinking that this has little to do with foie gras, but is part of wider push by vegetarians to ban meat eating. You could argue that an animal had a bad time for any meat.
Only the most delusional of them believes this is even remotely possible. In the real world, demand for meat is raising.
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Sure. My point was only that cats kill even when they are already well fed. The larger point is that nature can be cruel. I suppose I should have written a proper more detailed comment, I absolutely do believe that humans should hold ourselves to a higher standard and definitely shouldn’t be doing cruel things to living creatures because we do know better and can do better. But nature is still a pretty messed up plac…
Be careful about drawing conclusions about broader nature from the behavior of the domestic cat. The cat’s behavior is, like the dog’s, very significantly the result of human driven natural selection. In the cat’s case, humans have favored them for 1000s of years because they kill pests like rodents. That was their ancestral “job”, their role as a domesticated animal that lives in harmony with humans. You can probabl…
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> I see no issue with free range eggs from a local keeping chickens - Male chickens are usually ground up alive within a day of being born because they're not economical to keep for meat. Locally kept chickens still feed into this supply and demand as the egg laying hens have to come from somewhere. - Egg laying chickens can live for about 8 years but are usually killed after 2 years when they stop producing as many…
> free range doesn't mean what most people think it does That’s why I said local. I grew up in the country and lots of people had a few chickens. They run around freely and are not “farmed”. They’re almost pets. They lay eggs all the time, so there’s nothing wrong with eating those eggs. As for where the hens come from, this is how my parents got hens when they kept chickens a long time ago: go to your neighbour with…
- Do they let the chickens live until they die of natural causes? Or do they kill them before this?
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> free range doesn't mean what most people think it does That’s why I said local. I grew up in the country and lots of people had a few chickens. They run around freely and are not “farmed”. They’re almost pets. They lay eggs all the time, so there’s nothing wrong with eating those eggs. As for where the hens come from, this is how my parents got hens when they kept chickens a long time ago: go to your neighbour with…
- What do they do with the male chickens? About 50% of hatched eggs will be males. - Do they let the chickens live until they die of natural causes? Or do they kill them before this?
If you have too many adult roosters running around, they act like assholes and start fighting, pecking eggs, and other nastiness, so you don't want to keep them.
Meat chickens are usually mixed sex, as they are bred to grow so quickly that you slaughter them after only two or three months.
Historically, people would castrate male chicks and raise them as capons for eating, but that's become rather niche.