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Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by ryanmercer »

mattmillr wrote: post #84
ryanmercer wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do allow female nipples, if breastfeeding. I've seen numerous breastfeeding videos/photos get shared with nipple exposed or one of the two breasts completely exposed and report them just to see what will happen, they are always allowed to remain stating it does not violate the community standards. Similarly they seem to allow people to post comments like "why don't you use your guns to kill yourself" and "I hope…

> report them just to see what will happen You realize that if the post is removed, that "seeing what will happen" has a real consequence for the poster, right? If feel like that's even worse than reporting it because you actually believe it's objectionable.

You realize when I'm casually scrolling my facebook feed in public (like the break room at work, at a Church event, etc) and bare breasts pop up because someone felt the need to show strangers on the internet they breast feed it can have very real consequences including me losing my job, right?

One I reported was a woman doing duck lips, in a few second video lip, with one breast completely bare and the other mostly exposed with her child appearing to be wholly disinterested in feeding while she actively squeezed her breasts together with her inner upper arms and rotated back and forth to showcase them. Reported it, thousands of likes and even more comments, did not violate community standards and allowed to remain. Literally came up, shared by someone, while I was sitting at church waiting for a meeting to start. It was blatantly obvious she was just finding a way to show her breasts off, I feel no remorse for reporting her post, especially when her blatantly showing her breasts off ended up being 'fine' to Facebook.

Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by Rebelgecko »

pushpop wrote: post #85
lostapathy wrote: post #71

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Lots of guns aren’t designed to kill people either.

Indeed. But nobody is advocating a ban of water pistols, potato guns or other toys. Just the stuff that are actually lethal weapons.

Some jurisdictions consider potato guns to be firearms.

California law enforcement has said in the past that non-pneumatic potato guns with bores wider than 0.6 inches are "destructive devices" (possession is a felony). I don't know if that definition has been tested in court, but I wouldn't want to be the test case.

In Oregon they're considered firearms (even pneumatic ones). Can't possess them if you're a felon and if you shoot them somewhere you're not supposed to (like your own yard in some cities) you can get hit with the same charges you'd get for firing a real gun.

Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

mieseratte wrote: post #99
pushpop wrote: post #67

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It’s not just Europe though. For example Australia has similar sensibilities too. Maybe a more accurate description might be: countries predominantly atheist verses countries which are not. Regardless of you want to define it, a female nipple is still no more offensive than a male one.

> Regardless of you want to define it, a female nipple is still no more offensive than a male one. That's your subjective opinion.

Aren’t they pretty much the same thing? It’s just the bodies they are attached to are different. I suppose anybody could theoretically be offended by anything.

Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by dmix »

journalctl wrote: post #76
giarc wrote: post #56

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I wonder if it is also to prevent solicitation of sex on their platform. I wonder if there was a code of emojis used to agree on terms. Which banning the use of these emojis just means they use something else. Whack a mole.

People have been subverting language for about as long as there has been language. It’s incredibly difficult to police and a losing battle anyway. There are infinite possibilities for encoding other meanings into words, and if two or more people agree out-of-band to use covert communication, you can’t really stop them short of preventing all communication entirely.

There will be 2 new emojis soon enough.

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Post by marton78 »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #100
mieseratte wrote: post #97

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> It's even worse when you consider how it's based in binary gender thinking. More like even better. Glad to see a website exercising critical thinking. > Are a transgender person's nipples allowed, or not? Is it sexually suggestive? Then no. > A gender-neutral standard would be better. Well that's a policy ignorant of reality.

What reality is that I wonder?

The only one there is. The one we're living in.

Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by coldtea »

deftturtle wrote: post #31
GuiA wrote: post #14

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Thank god nude photos where male nipples cover female nipples are still fine.

It’s a shame they don’t allow female nipples but allow male nipples. Clear cut sexism, and is there no way to sue them?

It's puritanism (they should allow both), but it's not sexism.

Just because one of the sexes is treated differently in some way doesn't make something necessarily sexism.

It's just that female nipples are considered sensual while men nipples aren't. That's because female nipples are indeed sensual (and play a special role in reproduction and human sexual selection) whereas male nipples not so much.

(Sure, some men like to have their nipples rubbed, kissed, etc, and some women enjoy them. But you can find some percentage of people who enjoy anything, including sexually aroused by armpits, so that's not really an argument. Statistically, males enjoy female breasts/nipples sexually far more than women enjoy male breasts/nipples, hence they were considered more sexually explicit).

In the end, though, is it arbitrary? Yes, but so is considering dicks and testicles and pussies "bad" and sensual, and I don't see many people complaining they can't show their dick/pussy on Facebook (whereas, they should probably complain about that too).

Rationally speaking, without the baggage of culture, there's nothing special about dicks and pussies other hands and faces and toes.

Within the baggage of culture, however, they're in a different class, a class that female nipples happen to be also considered to belong to but male nipples not. But it's not like both men and women don't have several body parts considered censor-worthy. Woman having one more is not based on sexism (if that was the case, only women would have "shameful" body parts to hide and men would be able to display their dicks and balls and asses around), it's based on what culture considers sensual.

Re: ‘Sexual’ use of eggplant and peach emojis banned on Facebook, Instagram

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #55
deftturtle wrote: post #31

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It’s a shame they don’t allow female nipples but allow male nipples. Clear cut sexism, and is there no way to sue them?

I would guess that the key factor is whether or not a body part is significantly erogenous. AFAIK, many more women than men find their nipples to be a source of sexual arousal. EDIT: I hope people reading my post understand the difference between explaining vs. endorsing another party's reasoning.

More like the strange puritanism America can show when it comes to sex and relationships, nudity and minor curse words. Shows up in TV, eBay, Facebook and a selection of other ways. Violence on the other hand is usually permissible in near limitless quantity.
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