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Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by xilun0 »

devicenull wrote: post #56
pilif wrote: post #48

I wonder who's going to be the first to announce a SMTP proxy for this? More seriously: While I can kind of understand that Amazon has their API and probably wants this to work similarly, but there is already a wide-spread protocol for sending out email (SMTP) and I just can't understand why they can't provide an endpoint for that. Many applications which I really see making use of this already have built-in SMTP sup…

If they use SMTP, they run the risk of a compromised server sending spam through them. With the API, it makes it a bit more difficult for a compromised machine to start spamming, unless it already has API keys for this service.

purely security by proprietary obfuscation? clueless.

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by Groxx »

anto1ne wrote: post #113
sofuture wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point , though: usage driven fees. It's absolutely not the most economical offering, but the freedom and ability to either quadruple your infrastructure or shut it down entirely, no strings attached, in an instant is what you're paying for.

With most of dedicated server providers now, you can get any server with a 1 month contract, no strings attached, for a fraction of the price of an equivalent ec2 instance, and good IO as a bonus. And good providers usually delivers within 24h. I love aws services and use them myself, but for ec2, but I doubt most users have such volatile needs. The main advantage I see, for aws users (non ec2) is to have everything…

How about research uses? That kind of computing power is almost entirely un-buyable at the short terms many research needs have. You buy a month, or you buy nothing. EC2: you buy a minute, if that's all you need.

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by varenc »

plusbryan wrote: post #114
zacharypinter wrote: post #86

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> Sendgrid et al will continue to innovate in terms of feature set, and AWS never will Seems to me that Amazon has been quite busy innovating and expanding their feature set.

You're right, I misspoke when I said "innovate" - what I meant was, Amazon's goal is to create reliable base-level services for the developers of the world. Whereas a Sendgrid might provide unsubscribe management and fancy graphing, I don't see Amazon adding on additional services like this.

then they'd be moving into MailChimp's turf! I'd say they're in a pretty tight spot...

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by deno »

bromley wrote: post #133
blhack wrote: post #124

I want to be excited about this, but amazon basically destroyed any trust I had in them (at least the people that handle AWS). I signed up for the amazon free usage tier of AWS, excited to try it out, and really really loving amazon for doing something like that (giving away service for free). I signed up, spun up an EC2 instance (careful to make sure that this really was free), checked it out for a few minutes, then…

If I recall correctly the free tier enables you to use one micro EC2 instance. $60 for a month sounds about the cost of a small EC2 instance.

I'm pretty sure I know why it's happened to him:

Basically micro instances are ESB-only and if you select distro intended for instance storage the first option on the list in the wizard is "Small instance."

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by chromatic »

tybris wrote: post #128
astrodust wrote: post #94

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There's some awfully shady Java code out there, but since it looks impressive with all those abstract bases and factories you can't see the real problems. A 12,0000 line Java program with the same features and the same bugs as a 500 line Perl script is going to look clean in comparison even though it's just as crappy.

Sure, but in case of Perl the shady code is on a big pile with the good code. In Java you have projects like Apache commons that generally produce fairly good code as long as you steer clear of the experimental stuff.

Sure, but in case of Perl the shady code is on a big pile with the good code.

Does Java have anything comparable to CPAN Testers? http://www.cpantesters.org/

Note that commits to Perl 5 get tested against the whole of CPAN for unintentional breakage.

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by jolan »

rapind wrote: post #136
anto1ne wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With most of dedicated server providers now, you can get any server with a 1 month contract, no strings attached, for a fraction of the price of an equivalent ec2 instance, and good IO as a bonus. And good providers usually delivers within 24h. I love aws services and use them myself, but for ec2, but I doubt most users have such volatile needs. The main advantage I see, for aws users (non ec2) is to have everything…

I would love it if you could provide a link to your cheaper for more service providers. I've not found anything comparable for less $. Also, if you're comparing lock-in prices, compare them against the EC2 reserved instance prices.

http://www.gandi.net/hosting

Re: Introducing Amazon Simple Email Service

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Post by shadowpwner »

jeffbarr wrote: post #43

Here's my blog post: http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2011/01/introducing-the-amazon-si... If you like to solve puzzles, be sure to read the PS!

I don't have time to solve it, but translated from binary to text is .zncf anug erggro fv abpno

Anyone want to take up the mantle? :D

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