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Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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> "Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates," he added. Another tool in the arsenal of the rich and powerful to give them more of a voice than the average person, is another way to look at it. Facebook are profiting from both sides. They’re a news site that’s simultaneously FOX News and MSNBC al…

But a private company should enforce all the other things that Facebook has no problem moderating?

Facebook has already said they have no problem enforcing this for non-politicians, after all.

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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post #2

We simultaneously fear the power of Facebook but then demand they become the final arbiter of the truth, censoring even the speech of our political leaders. Why did we think this was a good idea again? Ask China their opinion on the value of being the one to decide what is true.

How is not selling something to anyone censoring them?

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a troll comment or are you being serious?

Neither really, it's demonstrating that it's kind of dumb to consider a paid advertisement "speech" for the purposes of "free speech", considering there's inherently a restriction there on how much "speech" you get, because you have to pay for the ability to "speak".

Free speech isn't free in the same way that free beer is. The idea is to avoid restricting what messages are allowed as much as possible. It's not about giving any particular individual a platform so much as making sure that the platform is open to a variety of ideas.

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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post #4

>Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates It's interesting how hard Zuck is working to try and conflate the idea of 'free speech' with paid advertisements. To put it another way, if advertising on Facebook is part of my free speech, surely Zuck must run my adverts despite the fact I have no mone…

he didn't say that because of "free speech" , he gave a specific reason for why he thinks they should be allowed. He didn't say its because anyone should be able to say anything.

If his argument was "free speech" he wouldn't have had to support it with "so they can get their message into debates". Why would "free speech" require supporting evidence.

Looks like you are the one doing the conflation :D .

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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post #9
post #7

Just ban all political ads.

So should be only left with live face to face stump speeches?

It is possible for the state to ensure that political parties get media airtime without having to buy ads.

Canada, Ireland, and the UK all do this with Party Political Broadcasts:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_political_broadcast

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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post #6

Facebook, the platform, is in trouble. It doesn't matter what the outcome is of the 2020 election season, or what Facebook does during it. They will be blamed for it. Buying Instagram and Whatsapp was farsighted, Facebook the company can cruise for awhile on those properties. The main site is bound to fall out of fashion, and soon. Can't be soon enough for my taste.

I'd wager that it already is falling out of fashion, at least among young people (say 30 and under).

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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post #9
post #7

Just ban all political ads.

So should be only left with live face to face stump speeches?

Obviously not–but I'm also not brimming with confidence that the road we're presently heading down is definitely better.
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