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Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by jonbronson »

readams wrote: post #2

We simultaneously fear the power of Facebook but then demand they become the final arbiter of the truth, censoring even the speech of our political leaders. Why did we think this was a good idea again? Ask China their opinion on the value of being the one to decide what is true.

Demanding even the slightest level of accountability for blatantly misleading or false information does not make them the final arbiter. It's not a binary choice of absolute determination vs completely hands off.

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by Derek_MK »

philliphaydon wrote: post #8
Traster wrote: post #4

>Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates It's interesting how hard Zuck is working to try and conflate the idea of 'free speech' with paid advertisements. To put it another way, if advertising on Facebook is part of my free speech, surely Zuck must run my adverts despite the fact I have no mone…

Is this a troll comment or are you being serious?

Neither really, it's demonstrating that it's kind of dumb to consider a paid advertisement "speech" for the purposes of "free speech", considering there's inherently a restriction there on how much "speech" you get, because you have to pay for the ability to "speak".

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by fennecfoxen »

Traster wrote: post #4

>Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates It's interesting how hard Zuck is working to try and conflate the idea of 'free speech' with paid advertisements. To put it another way, if advertising on Facebook is part of my free speech, surely Zuck must run my adverts despite the fact I have no mone…

"Mr. Paine! I submit that your pamphlet, _Common Sense_, is not free speech! If it was part of your free speech, surely your printers must print my pamphlets despite the fact that I have no money to pay for them." — some colonial judge in the service of the Crown, probably

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by ptah »

> "Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates," he added.

translation: I simply cannot say no to the amount of money made from political ads

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by diogenescynic »

readams wrote: post #2

We simultaneously fear the power of Facebook but then demand they become the final arbiter of the truth, censoring even the speech of our political leaders. Why did we think this was a good idea again? Ask China their opinion on the value of being the one to decide what is true.

I think most people just think Facebook ads should be held to same as older media like newspapers and tv that have to have an editor review the ad and approve it before it can be published. Facebook is being used as a disinformation platform and Zuckerberg thinks it’s more important to keep making money. I don’t think that trade off is worth what it’s doing to society. I think Facebook has a large share of the blame for making political discourse worse.

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by sjwright »

philliphaydon wrote: post #8
Traster wrote: post #4

>Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates It's interesting how hard Zuck is working to try and conflate the idea of 'free speech' with paid advertisements. To put it another way, if advertising on Facebook is part of my free speech, surely Zuck must run my adverts despite the fact I have no mone…

Is this a troll comment or are you being serious?

It is self-evidently a reductio ad absurdum, and a well written one at that. It demonstrates the logical flaw in Zuckerberg's argument with one short paragraph.

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by SolaceQuantum »

mc32 wrote: post #9
adam12 wrote: post #7

Just ban all political ads.

So should be only left with live face to face stump speeches?

I mean, I'm sure PACs can post to their facebook pages like the rest of us normies do. No need to purchase more eyeballs!

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by k__ »

philliphaydon wrote: post #8
Traster wrote: post #4

>Ads can be an important part of voice - especially for candidates and advocacy groups the media might not otherwise cover so they can get their message into debates It's interesting how hard Zuck is working to try and conflate the idea of 'free speech' with paid advertisements. To put it another way, if advertising on Facebook is part of my free speech, surely Zuck must run my adverts despite the fact I have no mone…

Is this a troll comment or are you being serious?

Why should this be trolling?

Re: Zuckerberg doubles down on Facebook political ads policy after Twitter ban

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Post by thawaway1837 »

mc32 wrote: post #9
adam12 wrote: post #7

Just ban all political ads.

So should be only left with live face to face stump speeches?

There are many ways to promote yourself and your message on Facebook itself that do not involve paying Facebook.
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