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Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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I'm just amazed at how the theft of two belts and a shirt from Walmart escalated to the point where a house blew up. It's like something out of a comedy calamity movie. How common is escalation like this during the course of law enforcement? (I'm hoping this is an extreme case?)

There more extreme cases:

>Who Pays When The DEA Destroys Your Vehicle And Kills Your Employee During A Botched Sting? Hint: Not The DEA

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150428/16401530826/who-p...

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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> 100 officers, 19 hours and a Bearcat APC

Man, when you have staff and resources, I guess you need to justify the bills. Instead of, you know, putting a couple units outside the house and waiting a week.

Those must have been some expensive belts and shirts. Though there's no way the use of force here is comparable with the value of items being reclaimed.

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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post #6

I'm just amazed at how the theft of two belts and a shirt from Walmart escalated to the point where a house blew up. It's like something out of a comedy calamity movie. How common is escalation like this during the course of law enforcement? (I'm hoping this is an extreme case?)

This may be an extreme outcome but excessive escalation by the police in America is also the norm. Look at recent encounters with NYPD in the subway over a man not paying the fare (value less than 5$).

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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post #11
post #6

I'm just amazed at how the theft of two belts and a shirt from Walmart escalated to the point where a house blew up. It's like something out of a comedy calamity movie. How common is escalation like this during the course of law enforcement? (I'm hoping this is an extreme case?)

There more extreme cases: >Who Pays When The DEA Destroys Your Vehicle And Kills Your Employee During A Botched Sting? Hint: Not The DEA https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150428/16401530826/who-p...

> The judge points out that Villasana also testified that he was "not aware" of any policy instructing him to notify the vehicle's owner of its potential use in a drug sting operation

Ah, ignorance of the law. Fine for them, not for you.

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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post #6

I'm just amazed at how the theft of two belts and a shirt from Walmart escalated to the point where a house blew up. It's like something out of a comedy calamity movie. How common is escalation like this during the course of law enforcement? (I'm hoping this is an extreme case?)

This may be an extreme outcome but excessive escalation by the police in America is also the norm. Look at recent encounters with NYPD in the subway over a man not paying the fare (value less than 5$).

Have a link?

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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post #12

> 100 officers, 19 hours and a Bearcat APC Man, when you have staff and resources, I guess you need to justify the bills. Instead of, you know, putting a couple units outside the house and waiting a week. Those must have been some expensive belts and shirts. Though there's no way the use of force here is comparable with the value of items being reclaimed.

Somebody stole 50$ worth of stuff. Instead of letting insurance pay and calling it a day, lest waste a couple of hundred thousand dollars and fully destroy somebody's home for another couple of hundred thousand dollars in damages.

What should happen here is that whoever thought this was the right course of action should be fired, and liable.

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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> Authorities say the suspect stole two belts and a shirt from a Walmart. After he left the store, police say, he broke into Lech's house for protection and was firing at officers with a handgun. Eventually, SWAT officers entered the home and apprehended him. ... > The court noted that if police officers "willfully or wantonly" destroy property, they can be sued in a civil tort case. Lech tried to pursue that legal a…

Precisely. The Police are keen to do little "viral" stunts like shooting hoops with kids or buying shoes for homeless guys (ok, fine things to do) ... but when it really comes down to stuff that actually matters - the countless killings and general misery they cause to minorities - they close ranks and put on a united front, and often have the audacity to play the victim.

This is why "ACAB" takes hold. They 100% get behind their shittiest members, effectively taking collective responsibility for them. I am really not sure what else they expect, really.

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ok if the police does it.

Explicitly the opposite of what was said.

It says that this would not be permissible under eminent domain, but as the act happened as part of a strategic decision it is acceptable police behavior.

"It's ok if the police does it" is a fair summary.

Re: Police Owe Nothing to Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This may be an extreme outcome but excessive escalation by the police in America is also the norm. Look at recent encounters with NYPD in the subway over a man not paying the fare (value less than 5$).

Have a link?

I'm on my phone so it is a bit hard to collect the links as much of what I've seen has been from Twitter but if you go on there and search "NYPD subway" you'll find numerous videos and recent accounts.
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