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Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

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Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

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Quelle excellente nouvelle ! Ça en laissera plus pour nous :-D

I came here to say the same thing. But it reads much better in the original French.

I can’t help thinking that this has little to do with foie gras, but is part of wider push by vegetarians to ban meat eating. You could argue that an animal had a bad time for any meat.

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

#12
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encourage you to learn more about it. It is not harmful or painful or cruel, the animals come willingly to the person who feeds them.

The animals are literally force fed with a tube. The animal's liver swells to many times its normal size. I am not sure what you are talking about. There is a reason why this practice is controversial to begin with. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

I have not actually seen it (and I'm not the OP), but I have been told by French farmers that geese do willingly and even eagerly run up to get the tube inserted so that they can have the food force fed into their gullet. At least with the few farmers I've talked to about this, the tube was not inserted permanently (these were very small operations). Having never actually seen it, I don't have any understanding of the discomfort the animals face or the extent to which these reports are true. But neither do I have reliable information that it is not true.

Disclaimer: I don't eat foie gras and don't advocate it either.

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

#13
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came here to say the same thing. But it reads much better in the original French.

I can’t help thinking that this has little to do with foie gras, but is part of wider push by vegetarians to ban meat eating. You could argue that an animal had a bad time for any meat.

> You could argue that an animal had a bad time for any meat.

One could certainly make a case for banning animal slaughter, but I suppose it would be practical only after we have good meat substitutes.

But in the meantime we could perhaps ban wanton cruelty such as Foie Gras. I'll add veal too to the list now.

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

#15
post #4

Well foie gras was a horrifying thing to learn about! This seems hard to excuse.

I encourage you to learn more about it. It is not harmful or painful or cruel, the animals come willingly to the person who feeds them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy#/media...

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

#16
post #8

I was surprised to learn that India is the only country[1] to ban the production and import of Foie Gras. Very few people would even know about the dish in India. But anyway, I hope this torturous practice comes to an end worldwide. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy

Do you eat meat at all? If so, how were the animals raised, slaughtered and processed?

This ban seems rather hypocritical to me given the atrocities happening in mass meat production.

While there are absolutely terrible things happening in Foie Gras production (I would never, ever buy any products from Hungary, as a for example) the really good stuff is raised quite humanely.[1]

To me this just looks like an attempt for quick political gain without any advantage to any factory raised animal (which, for the record, I regard as one of our biggest moral failings as humans).

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2010/11/ethical-f...

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encourage you to learn more about it. It is not harmful or painful or cruel, the animals come willingly to the person who feeds them.

The animals are literally force fed with a tube. The animal's liver swells to many times its normal size. I am not sure what you are talking about. There is a reason why this practice is controversial to begin with. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

The actual fact that geese can eat that much and double size (or more) is natural and necessary for their migration. It's possible to make foie gras by just letting the goose eating itself. Acording to my parents when they were living on farms when young, that's the way they were doing it.

Just banning the practice of force feeding would make more sense.

You can find a few things online about those alternative way https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=487088946

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

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I support this, but I’m not sure about its moral groundwork. I’ve never tried foie gras, and after reading about it I’m increasingly sure I never will. The fact that I find little pleasure in food delicacies and am thus not affected in the slightest by this ban makes it hard to sympathize with those who resist it; It’s just wasteful to me, after all. But someone could just as easily say that about my leather jackets and my fast fashion, or my snazzy tech purchases or all those luxuries I thoroughly enjoy. It feels unfair to decide this by a vote of people who are likely not affected, who don’t reap its value. But how, then, do we choose what’s right and what’s not?

Re: Foie Gras, Served in 1k Restaurants in NYC, Is Banned

#19
post #8

I was surprised to learn that India is the only country[1] to ban the production and import of Foie Gras. Very few people would even know about the dish in India. But anyway, I hope this torturous practice comes to an end worldwide. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy

Do you eat meat at all? If so, how were the animals raised, slaughtered and processed? This ban seems rather hypocritical to me given the atrocities happening in mass meat production. While there are absolutely terrible things happening in Foie Gras production (I would never, ever buy any products from Hungary, as a for example) the really good stuff is raised quite humanely.[1] To me this just looks like an attempt…

It's just a step in the right direction.
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