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Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years

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Re: Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years

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Physicists have been searching for variations in the coupling of materials to gravity for more than a century, and by some measure, for more than a millenium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle#Tests_of... Every experiment anyone has ever tried has come up empty. The equivalence principle is a postulate (Einstein's "happiest idea") that underlies General Relativity, making it essential to test. (Sour…

How much money does society need to spend supporting the work you do before we can safely conclude that Einstein was actually correct and we don't need to test it any more?

That's a great and important question. (doubly so for me, as constrained resources may see me leave the field, to which I have devoted my entire professional life, in the coming months) We are perennially grateful for the support we receive to do the work that we do.

To a high degree of approximation, Einstein's predictions are very, very correct. We are trying to look very carefully at Nature because we don't think we have the whole story.

It is possible that Einstein is exactly right. If so, we would never be able to describe the four forces of Nature with one unified theory. Today, we need two theories to describe everything we see -- the quantum-mechanical/particle-physics description of the Standard Model and gravity. There is no quantum-mechanical fuzziness in the mathematics of gravity, and there is no hint of the differential geometry of gravity in the mathematics of the Standard Model. The aspiration of almost every fundamental-physics physicist is to find a way to either simplify the Standard Model or connect it with gravity.

If the return on investment seems insufficent, know, too, that the technology we develop to push the boundaries of knowledge has important spin-offs. GPS is impossible without corrections from both special relativity and general relativity. The instrumentation we develop to make gravitational experiments possible on earth requires the development of new classes of seismometer [1] that may open new understanding of Earth's dynamics and allow better chip-fabrication instrumentation. The instrumentation developed to test gravity in space is also being used to measure the movement of mass (i.e. ice and water) on Earth's surface [2].

Even more important is the training we provide to students. Just as athletes train in the gym to get stronger, confrontation with the hardest known technical problems provides an efficient path for students and young faculty to become proficient at the entire range of modern measurement science. Alumni from our group have not only gone on to fancy academic positions, but also helped to redefine the kilogram, designed upgraded digital calipers used by tens of thousands of people worldwide, built key components of a major quantum-computing company's infrastructure, and more.

The people who work on these kinds of experiments are making a fraction of what they could make in industry. We are doing it for love, not money, and the returns to society are myriad.

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.03084 [2] https://gracefo.jpl.nasa.gov/

Re: Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years

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This is a terrible article that is little more than conspiracy theorist baiting. For example, the author takes this quote from Ben Rich:

>“We have some new things. We are not stagnating. What we are doing is updating ourselves, without advertising. There are some new programs, and there are certain things, some of them 20 or 30 years old, that are still breakthroughs and appropriate to keep quiet about [because] other people don’t have them yet.”

and by throwing the quote at the end of a long series of anti-gravity/EM papers tries to give the impression that the military is hiding something wild like a secret anti-gravity device. It's very National Enquirer.

There are other examples of this. The discussion of the WEAV pulls the quote "no moving parts and assures near-instantaneous response time", which presumably is to hint that this explains those instantly-accelerating discs seen in various videos. That "near-instantaneous response time" refers to the ability to change thrust quickly and not velocity is, of course, obscured.

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What is the currently accepted answer to the question, "what is gravity"?

The dent in the rubber sheet that the earth currently sits on - hence the whole curvature in spacetime thing. As far as I know no one has figured out or found gravitons yet, so it's just a theory.

Which I assume means there should be a few gravity-deniers out there to give themselves a break from global heating denial. :)

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What is the currently accepted answer to the question, "what is gravity"?

It is an illusion. You are floating freely in the space, but massive mass near-by is causing curvature in space-time. In other words: Time goes more slowly in your shoes, because they are closer to the mass. This causes any movement to be circular movement, which is pressing you to the near-by mass, which you experience as "gravity".

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If you do not work on an important problem, it's unlikely you'll do important work. It's perfectly obvious. Great scientists have thought through, in a careful way, a number of important problems in their field, and they keep an eye on wondering how to attack them. Let me warn you, `important problem' must be phrased carefully. The three outstanding problems in physics, in a certain sense, were never worked on while…

Time travel back into the past is understood to be impossible.

PBS Space Time just did an episode on this. Turns out, based purely on the maths it is possible, however highly improbable for us to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGnMiGrYmPE

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What is the currently accepted answer to the question, "what is gravity"?

Gravity is one of the essential forces in nature. If you want to explain it in simpler terms it is not possible because gravity is the simpler thing. You can use gravity to explain other things, but you cannot use other things to explain gravity.

Maybe. Maybe not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropic_gravity

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How much money does society need to spend supporting the work you do before we can safely conclude that Einstein was actually correct and we don't need to test it any more?

That's a great and important question. (doubly so for me, as constrained resources may see me leave the field, to which I have devoted my entire professional life, in the coming months) We are perennially grateful for the support we receive to do the work that we do. To a high degree of approximation, Einstein's predictions are very, very correct. We are trying to look very carefully at Nature because we don't think…

Some argue that keeping talented people out of industry is a downside of the sciences not an upside.

Personally, particle physics irritates me because I don't believe in particles... It's all vibrations, man :)

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How much money does society need to spend supporting the work you do before we can safely conclude that Einstein was actually correct and we don't need to test it any more?

That's a great and important question. (doubly so for me, as constrained resources may see me leave the field, to which I have devoted my entire professional life, in the coming months) We are perennially grateful for the support we receive to do the work that we do. To a high degree of approximation, Einstein's predictions are very, very correct. We are trying to look very carefully at Nature because we don't think…

Really appreciate your tone and patience in sharing you experience here!

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Physicist here (by degree, not profession). What you state is not true: by currently accepted physical theories, time travel to the past IS very much possible. It's known as a "closed, time-like curve" in the literature. Now, most mechanisms explored for doing so wouldn't allow travel back further than the initial creation of the time travel device, so you could say that time travel to our past is not possible since…

> Physics, as currently understood from available experimental evidence, 100% allows time travel to the past, paradoxes included. General Relativity, which is where the term "closed timelike curve" is used, does not allow paradoxes. A spacetime with closed timelike curves in it (for example, the Godel universe) still has only one thing happening at each event. The real problem conceptually with such solutions is that…

> you cannot freely choose what to do

But that's already the case. It could be my free will to walk on the ceiling, but the laws of physics won't let me.

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Certain kinds of it. Time travel to the past in a parallel universe at least doesn't cause any logical problems ('paradoxes') to arise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel#Interacting_many-w...

And where would the information about parallel universes be contained?

You mean everettian worlds? In the wave function.
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