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The funny thing is that I don't know which way you are shocked. If they aren't mirror-biased, which one is more biased?

Fox News obviously.

Note that this is "in 2019" though. Fox News hired Donna Brazile, who worked as head of the DNC.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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The cream should eventually rise to the top. Political ads are now archived for anyone to scrutinize. If a politician kept releasing ridiculous ads, voters and the general public would likely know about the existence at least. Censoring ads opens up a much larger can of worms IMO. "Republicans back the green deal" could mean: a. Congressional Republican majority b. Some elected Republicans c. A group of Republican vo…

You mention that political ads are archived for anyone to scrutinize. I am not aware of this and my belief is that this is both not the case, and in fact very difficult to execute due to the ephemeral nature of internet advertising. For example, imagine my TIMECUBE PAC ponies up for 2500 targeted facebook micro-campaigns with very slight variations depending on the target demo with an ad spend of $20, $50K cost. Woul…

Do you mean something like this? It doesn't go into exact details, but it does exist... https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/?active_status=all&ad_t...

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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> one could imagine a hack of defining political ads as "anything that would need to be reported to the FEC as an expenditure." That misses a whole bunch of political advertising. Most of it, I'd wager.

You have to start somewhere.

1. No you don't. 2. Regulations can lend credibility so a small ineffective "start" has a cost to it.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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I believe Jack's statement, while obviously well intended, is misleading.

Twitter will stop accepting money for political advertising. This is not the same as "stop(ping) all political advertising on Twitter".

Other people will continue promote things there and get paid for it regardless of what twitter's policy is.

I worry that a widespread misunderstanding of this will increase the public's vulnerability to paid manipulation on Twitter, particularly in a way that maximizes the impact of the least honest parties.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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In Denmark we have laws in place that hold news paper editors responsible for printing truth. They don’t always succeed, but they try to, and when they do fail they admit it and apologise.

This is what has kept our society well informed and critical thinking for a hundred years. It’s also allowed for different sides of things, because you can interpret things like socioeconomic statistics and facts differently and write about them as such, but you can’t make up things.

This died with Facebook, YouTube and the non-editorial entertainment “news” and as a result we have anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers and what not.

I have no idea how to regulate it though, but I think we need to do something.

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From what I recall Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez questioned Zuckerberg, she questioned along the anecdote of: If I purchase ads on Facebook saying Republicans support the Green New Deal (but they don't), will Facebook take the ads down? I often see these clean, easily provable anecdotes from those who support some kind of suppression of speech. I worry though: often the truthfulness of real world statements are difficu…

But the laws associated political advertising on TV aren’t really up for debate in the US.

They worked, and then came attempts to avoid campaign finance laws.

Choosing not to take money for potential political advertisements is good business for the owners of a public forum.

If it’s easy to verify, it’ll be good for anyone that cares about knowing what true public opinion looks like.

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Does USA have something like an election commision?

If a candidate or their representatives publish false information in the election season and any citizen complains about it, the election commision can try the candidate and perhaps even ban the candidate from participating in the elections.

The onus is directly on the liar to not lie

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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You have to start somewhere.

No. You actually don't have to start somewhere. Starting somewhere bad without a plan is actively bad. Here's the thing, people. FB and Twitter are pretty much garbage. That's fine, and we all mostly agree about that. Here's the worst part of social media in general: it's uniting the absolute shittiest of the Republicans with the absolute shittiest of the Democrats and encouraging them both to get together and form a…

While I can imagine what you mean by "shittiest Republicans", could you give me examples of the "shittiest Democrats"?

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Does USA have something like an election commision? If a candidate or their representatives publish false information in the election season and any citizen complains about it, the election commision can try the candidate and perhaps even ban the candidate from participating in the elections. The onus is directly on the liar to not lie

Yes there is an election commission. The recent actions by certain Republican congress members have reduced the efficiency of said commission to zero. We also have to deal with some important Supreme Court rulings: 1) Politicians can lie during campaigns, 2) Unlimited Super PAC funding of candidates, and 3) Coporations have the same rights as individuals
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