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Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by shorts_theory »

notJim wrote: post #5

I generally agree. I've taken to appending "reddit" to many of my search queries, because flawed though it is, reddit is one of the few places you can read an actual human thought. It feels like nearly all content on the internet is some de-personalized corporate "content marketing" blog at this point. Just give us your email address and we'll send you a PDF (and a drip marketing campaign.) I think the old internet w…

I've been doing this quite a lot for finding useful opinions or reviews on products. Reddit comments have a surprising consistency when it comes to tone and objectiveness which I've come to appreciate when I need a second opinion on something.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by platz »

remember Hipster Runoff?

apparently, he was "The Last Relevant Blogger"

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ypwezb/hipster-runoff-the...

including posts such as:

- Animal Collective is a Band Created By/For/On the Internet

- U, Me, And Every Concert We Attend: How We Grow Older With Concerts

- My job/career does not align with my true personal brand. [Generation Y and the mainstream workplace]

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by ShteiLoups »

Swizec wrote: post #152
nine_k wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intent. A desire to express an opinion vs an attempt to lure you to buy something while telling you banalities about the topic. Forums mostly see the latter as spam and evict.

How about weirdos like me and other infoproduct indies? We intend to express a genuinely valuable opinion in a useful way and try to convince you to consider buying our stuff.

Whitepapers are ads.

Cool ads, interesting ads, but still ads.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by rhodo »

anon9001 wrote: post #151
ethagnawl wrote: post #117

I generally agree with the author's sentiment regarding "the Old Internet". However, using "voat" and "thank goodness" in the same breath raised a red flag for me about the author and their motives. They mentioned being kicked off raddle.me for posting links to their site (the one that's currently linked to on the top of the HN homepage); maybe that was with good reason and not a result of gatekeeping? For example, f…

Congratulations! Your personal values are presently inline with corporate values. The world's largest moderators have you in mind when they're removing content. That must be great for you, because your experience is tailored for your personal satisfaction. And if you ever do happen upon something that offends you, you can report it and rest assured that corporate america will take care of it for you. Now imagine you…

Not hating women == corporate shill. Nice.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by hnzix »

cortesoft wrote: post #155
hnzix wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please link to the list of Empirically Correct Viewpoints™ so that I can identify and purge myself of thoughtcrimes?

They aren't thought crimes, but they are views that will get you ostracized... and they should. The rule is fairly simple, and does not require a list; if you believe that someone should have a different set of rules and expectations just because of a characteristic outside or their control, that is not acceptable.

Dividing the discourse into Correct people and The Others Who Shall Be Shunned is exactly the kind of binary thinking that is killing rational discourse.

You are never going to change someone's mind by shouting at them.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by api »

tenpies wrote: post #145
verylittlemeat wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spend enough time on 4chan and you'll realize reddit is a safezone kid gloves hug box. And 4chan isn't even that bad in terms of bad or illegal content so that goes to show how relative it all is.

4chan is outright fantastic in some aspects. /g/ is actually quite useful and friendly, especially the DPT (Daily Programming Thread), more-so if you're a beginner. /trv/ (travel) is just good and perfectly slow where you won't feel pressure to keep up with a thread because it will still be there tomorrow. /fit/ has good information and really encapsulates what happens when the internet meets bro-gym culture. Compare…

Is it still? I thought /pol/ ate the whole site and drove everyone who wasn't a Nazi or edgelord troll away.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by dingus »

superkuh wrote: post #21

The old internet is still there, it's still growing. It's just covered in a thick layer of corporate shit sites. All you have to do is be the change you want to see. Start hosting your website from home. Code it by hand. Don't use any javascript frontends. It's a good time. As for finding others, well, HN isn't a bad place to start. Just install an RSS reader client and every time you find yourself enjoying an articl…

We need our personal websites to start linking directly to each other again… friends, coworkers, mentors, related topics, etc…

This trend died out, it used to be on practically every website. Maybe people just figured Google would find and sort everything for them. But now the search engines are packed with SEO garbage and offer no discoverability or serendipity.

Time to start sharing homemade link lists again.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by fortran77 »

tw04 wrote: post #141
fortran77 wrote: post #135

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So because you don't like some of their content it's a "good thing" that it's hard to find on the Internet? I guess I miss the old internet, too.

Because it’s ridiculously inaccurate, sexist, and full of pointless hate. Whether he likes or dislikes it, the world was a better place when people were shamed into keeping ridiculous ideas like that to themselves.

Go into pre-"web" USENET archives and tell me that you don't find inaccurate, sexist, and hateful rants. And most people there were easily identified.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet

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Post by tjpnz »

hnzix wrote: post #166
cortesoft wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't thought crimes, but they are views that will get you ostracized... and they should. The rule is fairly simple, and does not require a list; if you believe that someone should have a different set of rules and expectations just because of a characteristic outside or their control, that is not acceptable.

Dividing the discourse into Correct people and The Others Who Shall Be Shunned is exactly the kind of binary thinking that is killing rational discourse. You are never going to change someone's mind by shouting at them.

It kills far more than rational discourse. People have had their careers and lives ruined over what somebody else deems to be wrongthink.
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