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Because you did 5-8-5!

That restriction can't actually be adhered to in the right spirit outside the Japanese language, and isn't 100% adhered to even in that language. Counting syllables quickly on the fingertips before clicking Post

More important though are the seasonal words. A lot of non-Japanese haiku misses this and for me it misses the point of the haiku entirely. You goal is not to construct a meaningful sentence with a certain number of syllables (or mora in Japanese), but to construct a sense of place and occasion in that structure. It has been said (though I don't know by whom) that to be Japanese is to be intimately aware of the weather. Historically Japanese people lived in insubstantial houses that were very open to the elements. Even now, many older people don't use heat in the winter or air condition in the summer. There are types of flowers that mark each passing season as well. If you make reference to these seasonal things, then it brings the reader into your space.

Basho's famous poem of a frog is a good example (this is my attempt at a 5-7-5 translation):

  Into an old pond
  a frog jumps in suddenly.
  The sound of water.
I added "suddenly" to make up the the 7 in the second line, which I think is in keeping with the story that Basho never actually saw the frog. It was that the world's silence was broken by the sound of the water from the jumping of the frog.

But the key for anyone who has lived in the countryside is that frogs appear in the spring and their noise can be deafening. So to be aware of the sound of the frog's splash, one has to be at the start of spring, when the air is still cool and the world is just waking up from it's winter's rest. It creates a connection to the feeling of being lost in thought and suddenly awakening though the sudden sound of a splash of water. You get the feeling of renewal, rebirth and starting afresh. Or at least, this is what the poem says to me.

All this to say to the OP, I think if you try to think of a place or a situation that is iconic to you and then use a "seasonal" word to refer to that situation, then you will get more out of your haiku. For example, I really, really like juped's "before clicking Post" line because it evokes that feeling that we all know on HN -- a kind of shared experience.

And, yes, the syllables are not so important in my mind as long as it's close. It is said that more important than the syllables is that you have a break in the middle somewhere. So you should usually aim for 2 sentences/thoughts in your three lines with some kind of break of structure to indicate the division. In Basho's poem you get the "sound of water" that stands in contrast to the frog jumping in.

Re: Feeling stuck? Write a poem

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If moths had eyes, would they be happier? How do they know they're not dead? Cavemen hunting for food But not before they style the hair on their head What would last longer in dinosaur times? A blind man didn't stand a chance Not with all them rocks about I'd rather be a blind moth - Karl Pilkington

Here's a live reading https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BsgsTehplQ

:)

Re: Feeling stuck? Write a poem

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And I’ll add another: Not feeling the creative juices flowing? Restrict yourself to a particular pentameter or style when writing that poem. Working with restrictions is one of the not-so-secret prerequisites to a lot of creative discipline.

True, and Mr Fry also agrees! I posted this elsewhere but I love this book and recommend to people, anyone can get into poetry!

https://www.amazon.com/Ode-Less-Travelled-Unlocking-Within-e...

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I would say that there is such vast amounts of poetry from the past, ( And there is enough there for readers to discover poems and poets they have not read before), contemporary poetry would be a small fraction of the entire whole. Even some major poets like Wordsworth wrote such volumes of poetry, even seasoned readers can find something new and unread from his work.

I agree - but it is arguable that a significant majority of poetry by canonical poets is settled in acclaim. Obscurities by them generally (but not always), are obscure for a reason. This will not at all be the case with new and contemporary poetry for the simple reason that these things take time to settle. Classic poetry has had enough exposure; contemporary needs support and nurturing. Some of it will fall by the…

I should also mention that very many poets and remarkable works have due to matters of popular taste, etc has failed to secure a firm place in the cannon as it is now. So I think considering the cannon, older works and poets need continual relook and re-evaluation. Poets like Edward Young, Walter Scott, perhaps even Dryden, etc may fall into such a category. Even works of 20 century poets like Ezra Pound and Philip Larkin, aren't that popularly known to general readers.

I find the cannon limiting, for the reason that it does not cover enough of the past, it makes a narrow representative selection that misses out many unique and eccentric voices of their time.

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Plugging a side project: if you want to be reading more poetry but don't know where to start, sign up at https://verse.press/ to get a weekly poetry "playlist" in your inbox. Sometimes it's a set of poems on single theme by different authors, sometimes it's a sampler of poems from a recently published book.

Does it only feature new works or does it take from the six centuries of great poetry we have in the English language.

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wrote a poem for the first time in years in response to news of abu baghdadid isis killing: here goes. please repost anywhere if you like it. take it as your own by adding (Dr Zues and professor[your name goes here])!

Killing an arab isis guy

We killed him. "Huzzah!" Boogah boogah is dead. We are safe. God bless.

This again. B4 it was qaddafi. B4 bin laden. B4 that saddam. How much braggadocio ? we go in cnn circles. Again and again Decades of gotchas.

We didnt 'get him' We got ourselves. We still gonna get got. By ourselves By us. Us is us. Usisus. Usis.

Maybe milking the boogah was necessary but it aint nothin to sell ads about. Did i say milking? Killing i guess. Im certain tho. That We are killing usis.

A polipoem by Dr. Zues.

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