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Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

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Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#31

Not sticking to sports is why they failed and needed new management and more invasive ads for revenue in the first place.

This is completely wrong. Gawker Media was a profitable, growing company until Peter Thiel wrecked it and its subsidiary sites were sold to a series of increasingly incompetent owners. Deadspin's "non-sports" articles were regularly among its most widely read. In fact, here's a person whose job it was to sell ads for Deadspin explaining that you are incorrect: https://twitter.com/jillian_schulz/status/118967386127042…

> until Peter Thiel wrecked it.

This is wrong.

Gawker media were confident they could operate freely in legal grey areas and fall back on their “freedom of speech” defense when they published Hulk Hogan’s sex tape without his knowledge.

The fact they decided to go to court and challenge Hogan over his claims of defamation was their own poor choice. The only thing Thiel did was bankroll Hogan’s legal team.

A.J. Daulerio’s deposition and subsequent cavalier appearance and court testimony was probably the last nail in their coffin.

In short, Gawker had been playing with fire before and escaped. The fact they thought this would be another easy escape proved to be their undoing.

Nobody but Gawker and their editors who thought they could publish anything, about any celeb is what cost them their publication and their jobs - not just one guy who financially supported Hogan in his civil case.

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is completely wrong. Gawker Media was a profitable, growing company until Peter Thiel wrecked it and its subsidiary sites were sold to a series of increasingly incompetent owners. Deadspin's "non-sports" articles were regularly among its most widely read. In fact, here's a person whose job it was to sell ads for Deadspin explaining that you are incorrect: https://twitter.com/jillian_schulz/status/118967386127042…

> until Peter Thiel wrecked it. This is wrong. Gawker media were confident they could operate freely in legal grey areas and fall back on their “freedom of speech” defense when they published Hulk Hogan’s sex tape without his knowledge. The fact they decided to go to court and challenge Hogan over his claims of defamation was their own poor choice. The only thing Thiel did was bankroll Hogan’s legal team. A.J. Dauler…

Let's not forget why Thiel was upset at Gawker. They outed him as gay, putting his life in danger because he did business in places where the penalty for homosexuality is death.

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#34
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Here's (some of) the reasoning from (one of) the horse's mouth: https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-adults-in-the-room-183...

The real and less romantic story is this: The journalists at Deadspin and its sister sites, like most journalists I know, are eager to do work that makes money; we are even willing to compromise for it, knowing that our jobs and futures rest on it. An ever-growing number of media owners, meanwhile, are so exceedingly unwilling to reckon with the particulars of their own business that they refuse to accept our eagerne…

> Why don't the journalists who know how to run the business pool their resources up and start a business then? What's stopping them? What do they need those venture capital vultures for?

Maybe they've got families to feed? Not everyone can just quit and start a business that indefinitely burns cash.

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#35
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any evidence for that claim?

I’m in adtech and know enough publishers. I can’t share exact numbers but readership is way down. Constant political stories and culture outrage doesn’t make good sports reading. Contrast this with barstool sports which is doing well.

Aren’t sports news tending toward data oriented reporting with online community?

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> until Peter Thiel wrecked it. This is wrong. Gawker media were confident they could operate freely in legal grey areas and fall back on their “freedom of speech” defense when they published Hulk Hogan’s sex tape without his knowledge. The fact they decided to go to court and challenge Hogan over his claims of defamation was their own poor choice. The only thing Thiel did was bankroll Hogan’s legal team. A.J. Dauler…

Let's not forget why Thiel was upset at Gawker. They outed him as gay, putting his life in danger because he did business in places where the penalty for homosexuality is death.

No, a billionaire is not in danger of death because he does business somewhere that has such a penalty.

A billionaire can afford security or not go in person.

Does not going in person harm his ability to make deals? Maybe, maybe not. But that doesn't even resemble "life in danger".

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#37
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real and less romantic story is this: The journalists at Deadspin and its sister sites, like most journalists I know, are eager to do work that makes money; we are even willing to compromise for it, knowing that our jobs and futures rest on it. An ever-growing number of media owners, meanwhile, are so exceedingly unwilling to reckon with the particulars of their own business that they refuse to accept our eagerne…

> Why don't the journalists who know how to run the business pool their resources up and start a business then? What's stopping them? What do they need those venture capital vultures for? Maybe they've got families to feed? Not everyone can just quit and start a business that indefinitely burns cash.

Especially people living on a writer's salary in New York City in 2019

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#38
This was Univision wasn't it? Kotaku is falling apart right now too, also done an impressively terrible job killing off the AV Club (I reckon there could be a case study in there about how not to do a rebrand tbh, have hardly viewed it since). They seemed to think they could just pull the audiences from about a dozen very different websites and mould them into one site.

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#39
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don't the journalists who know how to run the business pool their resources up and start a business then? What's stopping them? What do they need those venture capital vultures for? Maybe they've got families to feed? Not everyone can just quit and start a business that indefinitely burns cash.

Especially people living on a writer's salary in New York City in 2019

You don't have to live in New York City to run a content website. In fact, you can live wherever you want and work from home.

Re: Deadspin Staffers Are Quitting

#40

Here's (some of) the reasoning from (one of) the horse's mouth: https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-adults-in-the-room-183...

The current Wikipedia article about the new parent company is a thing of beauty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G/O_Media&oldid=9...

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