For the people who think this is a good idea, would you also be in support of a constitutional amendment to ban political advertising?
Twitter to ban political advertising
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Re: Twitter to ban political advertising
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Major League Soccer is going through this problem now. They prohibit political displays in stadium but are now in the business of deciding whether signs that say things like "anti-racist" or "anti-fascist" or "end gun violence" are political or not, and all of the worms that come out of that can. https://deadspin.com/by-banning-protest-signs-mls-is-trying-...
I wouldn't have a problem with expanding that to include social issues. You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. This is a problem I have with modern social movements, when they fail to get audiences in public spaces they seek out captive audiences or to be disruptive as possible to completely unrelated places. Hold your rally in a park or march down main street or a pedestrian way or in front of some plac…
> You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard.
Absolutely. So let's get rid of advertising at games. Not just political advertising; all advertising. No Democratic or Republican ads, but also no Toyota or Chrysler ads, no Coors or Bud Light ads. Unfortunately, there's too much money at stake for that to ever happen.
But political ads are different. I don't think Coors drinkers get offended when they see a Bud Light ad.
Re: Twitter to ban political advertising
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't have a problem with expanding that to include social issues. You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. This is a problem I have with modern social movements, when they fail to get audiences in public spaces they seek out captive audiences or to be disruptive as possible to completely unrelated places. Hold your rally in a park or march down main street or a pedestrian way or in front of some plac…
"Please do not bother me with you trying to not get killed by the state anymore."
“Look I know your the victim of systematic racism and oppression that’s led you to march, but goddamnit I’m trying to get to Burger King!!”
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#224ITT: They'll switch to bots! They'll just start doing x! So? We can address that when we get there. This is a step in the right direction for once.
Agreed, just keep filling in holes until it’s impractical to dig new ones.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
I completely agree with what you're saying about the difficulty of cleanly separating political vs nonpolitical speech, but for specifically the case of U.S. political issues, one could imagine a hack of defining political ads as "anything that would need to be reported to the FEC as an expenditure."
> one could imagine a hack of defining political ads as "anything that would need to be reported to the FEC as an expenditure." That misses a whole bunch of political advertising. Most of it, I'd wager.
You have to start somewhere.
Re: Twitter to ban political advertising
#226From what I recall Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez questioned Zuckerberg, she questioned along the anecdote of: If I purchase ads on Facebook saying Republicans support the Green New Deal (but they don't), will Facebook take the ads down? I often see these clean, easily provable anecdotes from those who support some kind of suppression of speech. I worry though: often the truthfulness of real world statements are difficu…
There's a difference between opinion and facts/lies. Opinion is fine, but when someone is spreading an objective lie (the earth is flat!)... that's where it seems like this is a cop out for Facebook to pretend they can't get involved due to "free speech". Sure, let people share opinions, but not lies and misinformation.
Who should adjudicate what is an is not a lie? Twitter’s response is basically “we don’t want to be the ones to do that”
Re: Twitter to ban political advertising
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Major League Soccer is going through this problem now. They prohibit political displays in stadium but are now in the business of deciding whether signs that say things like "anti-racist" or "anti-fascist" or "end gun violence" are political or not, and all of the worms that come out of that can. https://deadspin.com/by-banning-protest-signs-mls-is-trying-...
The difference is that it's easy to have "a private org can set its own logically inconsistent policy" (and every possible policy except "everything is allowed" is logically inconsistent) but impossible to have "we will only allow universally agreed upon good things in this space".
The latter turns into "everything is forbidden", which is also logically consistent... but not useful or practical.
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#228The real question is how long it will take for Facebook to follow suit.
Who says they will? They just gained market share and more ad dollars.
"Gained market share" is incidentally not what FB needs right now when they are already under heavy scrutiny for their political ad policies.
Re: Twitter to ban political advertising
#229From what I recall Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez questioned Zuckerberg, she questioned along the anecdote of: If I purchase ads on Facebook saying Republicans support the Green New Deal (but they don't), will Facebook take the ads down? I often see these clean, easily provable anecdotes from those who support some kind of suppression of speech. I worry though: often the truthfulness of real world statements are difficu…
"The Green New Deal. Who really supports it? Click here to find out more."
Just move the propaganda two hops away.
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inmates - does this means the legal team ?
Unsure if you’re asking who is running twitter or what’s meant by ‘inmates’ so will attempt to answer both. I suspect it’s marketing people / short-sighted profit minded people rather than the legal team running the place. And if you are asking about inmates meaning, it’s an idiom, “the inmates are running the asylum” meaning the least useful/knowledgeable people have taken over from the competent. https://idioms.the…
Thanks :)