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Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by Reedx » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

blotter_paper wrote: post #76

I don't agree with every call Twitter makes, but I find Dorsey to be by far the most interesting public figure in the social media game. His two JRE interviews[0][1] and his Tales from the Crypto interview[2] are all worth checking out, IMO. He seems to think Twitter should use a blockchain in the future, and that small social circles should have a system for internally moderating content without needing it to be oka…

From what I recall in the JRE and Sam Harris interviews, Jack seemed very reasonable. I think Twitter is something that's gotten away from him (certainly from what he'd like) and is being run by the inmates to a significant degree.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by Trias11 » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

The best political ads does not sound political at all.

Yet these could subtly touch on subconscious minds of potential voters to move the needle toward specific party, movement or candidate.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by toephu2 » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

acollins1331 wrote: post #2

We don't let blatantly false ads run on TV. Why is it so hard for Facebook or Twitter to do the same thing?

Cause money makes the world go 'round?

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by netsharc » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

I was wondering how he was going to explain this in 140^w 280 characters...

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by busterarm » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

tyre wrote: post #57

busterarm wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also get an army of real actual people to spread your message and the company can just ban them and accuse them of being bots or having ties to some government without actual evidence.

Your comment is written in a way that implies that this happens. Do you have evidence to back that up? Not evidence that they take down suspected state-sponsored brigading, but that they were wrong?

Wired ran an article demonstrating that this happened. https://www.wired.com/story/how-americans-wound-up-on-twitte...

I shouldn't have to google for someone as politically active... ...you're literally working to elect someone president.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by AmericanChopper » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:37 PM UTC

Miner49er wrote: post #26

duxup wrote: post #7

Is this when we now start to wonder what will count as a political ad? Social movements that have a political connection / associated with a particular party or candidate?

A post from the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21380985 A user who works in digital advertising said they do the following: > You don't take money from clients who are representing/selling anything other than goods or services. You evaluate creative & landing pages for each and every campaign. It's extremely simple. Seems like a mostly good solution. I guess you could still sell political services an…

The quote you posted just seems intentionally dismissive. The truth is that whether any content is political or not depends much more on the views of the audience than it does the content itself. Outside of ads that political campaigns would want to run directly, this means that twitter will be arbitrarily deciding what content is political (and therefor not allowed), and what content is non-political (and therefor allowed). The only possible outcome is that twitter moderates the content based upon whatever political perspective they choose to adopt for this.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by lonelappde » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:37 PM UTC

jld wrote: post #37

duxup wrote: post #7

Is this when we now start to wonder what will count as a political ad? Social movements that have a political connection / associated with a particular party or candidate?

Major League Soccer is going through this problem now. They prohibit political displays in stadium but are now in the business of deciding whether signs that say things like "anti-racist" or "anti-fascist" or "end gun violence" are political or not, and all of the worms that come out of that can. https://deadspin.com/by-banning-protest-signs-mls-is-trying-...

The difference is that it's easy to have "a private org can set its own logically inconsistent policy" (and every possible policy except "everything is allowed" is logically inconsistent) but impossible to have "we will only allow universally agreed upon good things in this space".

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by syrrim » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:37 PM UTC

ambicapter wrote: post #87

tyre wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is written in a way that implies that this happens. Do you have evidence to back that up? Not evidence that they take down suspected state-sponsored brigading, but that they were wrong?

> You comment is written in a way that implies that this happens. I think his comment his written to imply that it is possible for this to happen. In which case, it does not require supporting evidence beyond the logical consistency of itself, which is sound, I believe.

busterarm is almost certainly referring to chinese "bots".

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by blotter_paper » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:37 PM UTC

Reedx wrote: post #121

blotter_paper wrote: post #76

I don't agree with every call Twitter makes, but I find Dorsey to be by far the most interesting public figure in the social media game. His two JRE interviews[0][1] and his Tales from the Crypto interview[2] are all worth checking out, IMO. He seems to think Twitter should use a blockchain in the future, and that small social circles should have a system for internally moderating content without needing it to be oka…

From what I recall in the JRE and Sam Harris interviews, Jack seemed very reasonable. I think Twitter is something that's gotten away from him (certainly from what he'd like) and is being run by the inmates to a significant degree.

I wish he had a controlling share.

Re: Twitter to ban political advertising

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Post by unpwn » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:38 PM UTC

brm wrote: post #22

Every time I see someone complaining about bots, its because there are a lot of likes for something they personally dislike. Not saying bots on the internet are not a problem, but I think lots of people are quick to blame bots instead of conceding that others may disagree with them. Its also virtually impossible to prove accounts as "real" or "bots" without some ID verification in place. People kinda do it via clustering/graph analysis, but I think even those are iffy at best.