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Not 100% sure of the repo name, as it's not displayed in the document. At a guess this is the one, and it still seems to be on GitHub: https://github.com/tsunamidemocratic/tsunamidemocratic.githu... The GitHub pages hosted website still seems to be online too: https://tsunamidemocratic.github.io Perhaps GitHub is publishing the request, but isn't complying with the takedown?
Don't create central points of vulnerability to coercion. That multiplies the effectiveness of coercive force. Create decentralized systems. Git, not GitHub. Bitcoin, not Citibank. Email, not Gmail — although we still need to free email from DNS.
Never forget how the Spanish Inquisition — the origin, in the West, of these sorts of degraded "laws" against "criminal content" — treated the Jewish people and the keepers of the quipu. Reaching back further, remember how Qin Shi Huang treated the Mohists, infinitely his superiors in every respect.
People will say it's justified because the Catalan separatists are fascists, terrorists, pedophiles, or whatever. It's not justified. The rulers of al-Andalus were no angels either, but their abuses were nothing compared to the genocidal nightmares the Inquisition concealed with its censorship.
Today we are building the systems we will live in tomorrow. Do you want a future of a thousand Inquisitions or a thousand Miltons and a thousand Humboldts? Do you want Jefferson's future or Stalin's? A new Dark Age or a new Enlightenment? Will a thousand schools of thought contend, or will the people of the world suffer a sanitized environment devoid of "degenerate art" and "bourgeois ideals"? Will they remember what really happened, teasing the truth out of biased accounts written from many points of view, or will they only be able to read history as written by the victors, the version whose "correct ideology" earns it the censor's imprimatur?
It depends on how vulnerable our systems make human rights, and in particular the right to knowledge.
As a hacker, you decide what tomorrow's books are made of. Will they be printed on celluloid, which goes up like gunpowder with a spark? Or will they be etched in bright sheets of stainless steel?
Because governments burn libraries.
But cypherpunks write code.
† That's "states" to you Brits.
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A) A little late now, since as is stated in the letter people are already mirroring the repo B) can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it? Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.
The app is spreading fast because it was in google play (if I recall correctly) before being taken down. Also there are many telegram groups that people use to learn about how to download and install it
It's also one of the serious security problems with this app, you can't have an official source, and forcing people to install through direct apk installation, it can be replaced by a rogue modified version very easily.
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Anyone in Spain got any context on TD and the current political context?
The tsunami app it's trying to build a decentralized network on a way that anonymous individuals can control and send messages to specific peers, to coordinate "peaceful" demonstrations and make noise on their independence desire. They managed to close the access to Barcelona airport and disturb the lives of thousands of individuals, and their plan is to continue doing so in an anonymous and unaccountable way. Spanis…
I mean, the politicians who tried to do this in an eponymous and accountable way got prison sentences, so...
For a bit of context I'll leave my two cents here trying to be as objective as possible, leaving politics out of it as much as I can. Following the judge's veredict of the Catalan politicians who coordinated the "proces", or series of political movements to attempt to secede Catalonia from Spain; demonstrations have arisen within Catalonia protesting said judgement - the politicians were essentially deemed as conspir…
Sounds like a bit of welcomed transparency to me. The Spanish police, concerned citizenry, etc. can use the app just as much as anyone else, to prevent things from getting out of hand.
(*Edited for consistency with newly-provided info in this HN thread.)
This is outrageous "Tsunami Democratic" has not coordinated any terrorist attack nor has an attack taken place in Spain... They are abusing antiterrorist laws to quash peaceful protests and GitHub is complying.
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How is a judicial authority not a part of the government?
Government is often understood to be the executive part, somewhat like 'administration', I don't know if there is a better word to use.
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Anyone in Spain got any context on TD and the current political context?
I'd rather not to take anyone on Spain very seriously about this, as this is a very "with me or against me" kind of problem, and practically everyone has a strong opinion. Everyone will tell you their side of the story, with half-truths and euphemisms wherever they need them. Source: I'm Spanish, currently living in Barcelona.
For a bit of context I'll leave my two cents here trying to be as objective as possible, leaving politics out of it as much as I can. Following the judge's veredict of the Catalan politicians who coordinated the "proces", or series of political movements to attempt to secede Catalonia from Spain; demonstrations have arisen within Catalonia protesting said judgement - the politicians were essentially deemed as conspir…
> developed an app that allows people to know where demonstrations are happening Sounds like a bit of welcomed transparency to me. The Spanish police, concerned citizenry, etc. can use the app just as much as anyone else, to prevent things from getting out of hand. (*Edited for consistency with newly-provided info in this HN thread.)
Of course, the police would be able to infiltrate this with a bit of effort.
The title is intentionally misleading. It's not the government but the judicial authorities, in Spain we have distribution of power. From the take down notice: > In Spain, judicial authorities are responsible for the supervision and control of websites in order to prevent the dissemination of criminal content as it is specified in the article 35 of our Law 34/2002 and the article 13 of our Criminal Procedure Code.
How is a judicial authority not a part of the government?