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Six cars aced new pedestrian detection tests
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#22I’m a fan of Tesla but when you see that their system is not a bit better than the competition (they’re all failing in low light conditions), I don’t know how they can claim autonomous driving “coming soon.” Especially after Uber’s death you’d think that this specific condition would be given extremely high priority.
How good are humans detecting pedestrians in low light conditions? It's an important test case, but I wonder how many of those would be undetectable by a human as well.
Ideally some 'low light camera' should warn you that in darkness far ahead there's 'something' unusual on the road and you will have time to react. Recently there was accident where truck with palm oil overturned on highway and first cars crashed into the truck because they were travelling too fast and only with low beam lights : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX765Vw1fY
For example this camera module will be used soon in cars and it's really more sensitive than driver's eye : http://www.camera-module.com/download/sony-imx390-sensor-sel...
Re: Six cars aced new pedestrian detection tests
#23Basically none of them are good enough for a real world scenario in a busy city. But they may save life on some scenarios which is good. They can achieve a huge safety improvement by forcing speed limit. But somehow car manufacturers don’t want to implement it.
> But somehow car manufacturers don’t want to implement it.
Maybe because nobody would buy a car that enforces its idea of the current speed limit on the driver? (It'd be good to have as an option though, I agree, as long as it can be overridden.)
Re: Six cars aced new pedestrian detection tests
#24I’m a fan of Tesla but when you see that their system is not a bit better than the competition (they’re all failing in low light conditions), I don’t know how they can claim autonomous driving “coming soon.” Especially after Uber’s death you’d think that this specific condition would be given extremely high priority.
> they’re all failing in low light conditions
Isn't this an issue with lights ?
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#25> "in most cases avoided hitting the pedestrian" I am not sure if this result merits the use of the word "aced" in the title.
I think it's fair to say that whether you hit the pedestrian is more or less irrelevant to your score on a pedestrian detection test.
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#26I’m a fan of Tesla but when you see that their system is not a bit better than the competition (they’re all failing in low light conditions), I don’t know how they can claim autonomous driving “coming soon.” Especially after Uber’s death you’d think that this specific condition would be given extremely high priority.
Having actually test-driven many of these cars this year, in practice Tesla is much better than the competition. There might still be problems in different conditions, and it is not fully autonomous of course, but the common HN myth that other cars basically have the same lane assist that tesla has is just a lore. Tesla autopilot is light years ahead of the rest of them.
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#27With the news about Uber and Tesla accidents, it’s been making me wonder: why not equip these cars with one more sensor: an infrared camera. Combining thermal information with extant information will be a great boon in making intelligent decisions, no?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
How good are humans detecting pedestrians in low light conditions? It's an important test case, but I wonder how many of those would be undetectable by a human as well.
Ideally some 'low light camera' should warn you that in darkness far ahead there's 'something' unusual on the road and you will have time to react. Recently there was accident where truck with palm oil overturned on highway and first cars crashed into the truck because they were travelling too fast and only with low beam lights : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX765Vw1fY For example this camera module will be used…
Adding thermal imaging to the sensor suite would probably help with a lot of edge cases, but the hardware is still very expensive. It has come down some in the last 5-10 years but there is a long way to go.
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#29I have to turn the pedestrian detection off every time I drive past the local school. Why? The kids figured out that it's really easy to make new cars emergency brake by just pretending to walk onto the road. People suck.
Cars are the leading cause of dead children in the US and this is what annoys you?
lol, cars arent the cause. people who can't drive are.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cars are the leading cause of dead children in the US and this is what annoys you?
How'd you arrive at this conclusion? That's a bizarrely uncharitable interpretation of what I wrote. I assure you, I'm annoyed by many other things too. >Cars are the leading cause of dead children You know, this obviously is exactly why it annoys me to turn off the pedestrian detection. It's not like it protects me, sitting in my car.
it also protects you in the car, if not from physical damage which at speed is likely when hitting a heavy object like a human, from mental trauma of killing a person...