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Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by CydeWeys » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 2:47 AM UTC

Cogito wrote: post #26

derefr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other way around: repo.new would redirect to github.com/repositories/new. Imagine a webapp whose landing view page is very heavy-to-load because it’s a view of your library of documents. Like, say, Google Docs. Now imagine there’s a thing you can type instead of docs.google.com (i.e. https://docs.new ) that’ll let you skip past that library view, straight to a blank new document view, so you can immediately start typ…

> Other way around: repo.new would redirect to github.com/repositories/new. Look at that!, it does redirect to github.com/new/ I guess that will be useful for some people? It feels a little bit like mystery meat though; how do I discover these super useful shortcuts? If I am someone who would benefit from learning a quick-to-type shortcut for performing an action, say because I create these things all the time, what…

You know how, when you've just recently pushed a new branch to master, and then you go to GitHub, it'll auto-suggest creation of a new pull request with the correct source and destination repos/branches automatically selected, and all you have to do is confirm to send it?

That's what I think pr.new should do. I'd definitely use that one a lot.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by CydeWeys » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 2:48 AM UTC

profmonocle wrote: post #56

appleshore wrote: post #30

The only super useful version of this idea is a privacy law that requires services that collect data to offer a “facebook.delete” link to temporarily and permanently remove personal data.

I'm not keen on legally mandating the use of a particular domain extension, unless that extension is managed by a non-profit. Some of the newly-added TLDs have exorbitant annual fees, and if businesses were legally required to use them they could charge whatever they pleased. Plus, you'd have a collision problem. What if one company has foobar.com and another has foobar.net, and they both collect data? (Imagine they'…

You'd have to create the real TLDs as SLDs on .delete, and then the way to make a .delete domain would simply be to append .delete to the existing FQDN.

So you'd thus have foobar.com.delete and foobar.net.delete, no collisions.

Not saying it's great, but it'd work.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by CydeWeys » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 2:48 AM UTC

jiveturkey wrote: post #53

sdan wrote: post #31

Been using https://docs.new for the past 2-3 months. It's absolutely game-changing as I'm writing a bunch of stories and need to iterate fast and recompile my thoughts just by typing in 8 characters.

huh. the sunrise period has only been 2 weeks so far. how did this exist for 2-3 months? that's unfair.

"The Qualified Launch Program (QLP) Addendum is available for new gTLD registry operators as of today. The QLP Addendum allows a registry operator to register up to 100 domain names to third parties prior to the Sunrise Period for purposes of promoting the TLD, under certain conditions."

https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/announcements-and-media/announ...

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by profmonocle » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

grenoire wrote: post #13

There's a requirements list, by the way: "That means that all .new domains registrations must: - Be used for action generation or online content creation; - Take the user directly into the action generation or content creation flow; - Resolve to the action within 100 days of registration;* and - Allow Google Registry to verify compliance at no cost."

Amusingly, they list these requirements on "whats.net" - a site which clearly violates these rules.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by mustntmumble » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 3:11 AM UTC

grenoire wrote: post #13

There's a requirements list, by the way: "That means that all .new domains registrations must: - Be used for action generation or online content creation; - Take the user directly into the action generation or content creation flow; - Resolve to the action within 100 days of registration;* and - Allow Google Registry to verify compliance at no cost."

I'm wondering how that would work for an online shop. Lets say I went to amazon.new - what should I expect to see?

Maybe a new empty shopping cart?

Or a list of new products that have just been added to the store?

I think new products would be most intuitive for a shop.new domain...

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by keeganpoppen » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 3:14 AM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #20

Cogito wrote: post #10

So the stated use case is for 'performing new actions online: any act that leads to creation can have a quick and memorable .new shortcut associated with it.' So it's expecting users to go to a different website to perform one specific action, and then return to the original website? If I'm on github.com, click the new repo button, and get redirected to 'repo.new' I'm assuming the website has been hacked. If I want t…

I just have no idea why anyone would use a whole .new domain to achieve the stated purpose! Domain squatting is so last decade. The 20's are going to be all about corporate TLD squatting.

google's already got a pretty good head start, too...

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by EGreg » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 3:15 AM UTC

Wouldn’t it be so much better if domains were specified the other way?

new.github.repo

It makes more sense and sounds better in most languages too

Although from the point of view of HTTP we already have verbs for that. It should really be

POST github/repo

Or maybe in user friendly display:

new github/repo

I guess maybe usa.github and in.github can be different domains because different organizations may have same name in diff countries

Treating a TLD as a verb is just silly. It comes at the end of the sentence...

Also it encourages stuff like repo.new to be owned by only one company - github - but what about atlassian butbucket etc?

Better to just have decreasing specificity. Like you have after the slash!

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by toast0 » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 3:51 AM UTC

tpmx wrote: post #48

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note on Android this actually works great. Typing docs.new gives me a modal where I can choose between my work and personal account, and then dumps me in the docs editor app with a new doc.

Surely "PCs" must the dominant form factor for Google Docs/Sheets/Slides authoring? Still? I mean, it's neat that you can edit a google doc on your phone, but who actually spends hours authoring that doc, tapping on a software keyboard on 5 inch touch screen?

Lots of people don't have a PC at all. If they're using Google Docs, it's with their phone.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by wwweston » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:00 AM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #67

Wouldn’t it be so much better if domains were specified the other way? new.github.repo It makes more sense and sounds better in most languages too Although from the point of view of HTTP we already have verbs for that. It should really be POST github/repo Or maybe in user friendly display: new github/repo I guess maybe usa.github and in.github can be different domains because different organizations may have same nam…

> POST github/repo

YES. Give HTTP verbs a place in the URL bar. That'd be huge.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Post by sdan » Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:37 AM UTC

jiveturkey wrote: post #53

sdan wrote: post #31

Been using https://docs.new for the past 2-3 months. It's absolutely game-changing as I'm writing a bunch of stories and need to iterate fast and recompile my thoughts just by typing in 8 characters.

huh. the sunrise period has only been 2 weeks so far. how did this exist for 2-3 months? that's unfair.

Didn't actually realize it was a .new domain (and didn't think .new was actually a new domain) since some people recommended it to me a while back (as far as December 2018 even... I think).

Obviously since it's Google, they are going to show off all the features first-hand.