Gitlab cancels plan on tracking user behavior on GitLab.com

Post by mkl » Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 9:57 PM UTC

notJim wrote: post #105

I find the anti-telemetry attitude honestly kind of confusing. I mean, you know that the shops you go to know what products you're buying from them, right? Presumably those shops look at that data in aggregate when thinking about which products to stock. How is this any different? If you're transacting with someone, it's not possible to hide that transaction from them. Of course you should have the right to have that…

Post by ericmcer » Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 9:59 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #22

dsissitka wrote: post #14

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Here's a screenshot for people that don't feel like waiting for the page to load: https://imgur.com/a/uxaU0h8 How is GitLab still this slow?

It’s probably hammering the database right now. These kind of things, by nature, are difficult to cache because the balance between “fresh” new content and how often they are accessed leans heavily towards having it served from the backend directly.

Post by matz1 » Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

Accacin wrote: post #96

zapita wrote: post #9

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You may or may not agree with that comment, but it is not nasty. What is nasty, on the other hand, is the vitriolic reaction to it. So far I count 16 "middle finger" emojis, including one with the subtitle "incompentent or malicious CFO". In what world does a disagreement over the right level of telemetry justify this kind of behavior? It's mind-boggling to me how entitled and aggressive the open-source culture is al…

> In what world does a disagreement over the right level of telemetry justify this kind of behavior? In a world where companies think little of collecting and selling our personal data to make a profit? In a world where companies feel the need to track every part of my life with or without my permission. This is something I can't escape, as every time I interact with someone that does use one of these platforms than…

Post by notJim » Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:17 PM UTC

mkl wrote: post #111

notJim wrote: post #105

I find the anti-telemetry attitude honestly kind of confusing. I mean, you know that the shops you go to know what products you're buying from them, right? Presumably those shops look at that data in aggregate when thinking about which products to stock. How is this any different? If you're transacting with someone, it's not possible to hide that transaction from them. Of course you should have the right to have that…

Web tracking is different in that it's ongoing tracking of behaviour. When I buy something from a shop, that's the end of their knowledge: the shop has no idea what I use it for.

Post by SamReidHughes » Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

xiphias2 wrote: post #70

tyre wrote: post #58

The reaction to this whole saga has been insane. Chill out people. They fucked up, users gave feedback, they listened. This isn't some corporate conspiracy, some grand ethical dilemma with an evil company on one side and some white knight hackers on the other. Let's imagine for a second that they are people trying to do the right thing, with years of history doing the best they can. They wanted to measure usage to ma…

They wanted to violate my rights given by Article 7.2 of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), this is clearly making the product worse. What's great with GitLab compared to other companies is that they are doing things in the open, while another company would just violate my rights without me knowing it. If you go through the comments, multiple (toxic) people in GitLab doesn't care about user rights, just w…