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Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by mitchellh »

acruns wrote: post #14
davidu wrote: post #4

Isn't this what Partner ID is designed for? "Injects" is a strong word. Maybe "Hashicorp provides an Azure Partner ID in Terraform deployments for deployment stats, and some users may not want that" would be a better title.

By adding their partner ID, they get revenue based on the usage in Azure.

We do not get any revenue. Zero. We also get no information from this since the partner ID is actually a Microsoft Partner ID and not a HashiCorp Partner ID. Please see my response here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21389908

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by sidcool »

mitchellh wrote: post #55

Hi everyone, I'm the founder of HashiCorp. I want to make something clear up front that this does NOT allow us to see resource usage by Terraform user and does NOT result in credits or revenue sharing at all. HashiCorp has no direct access to this information in any form. Before explaining "why" we do this, I do want to apologize and say that adding this without proper explanation was a mistake. It isn't clear why it…

This is a great reply. Hashicorp is one of my favorite companies. I would always give them the benefit of doubt.

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by simplehuman »

mitchellh wrote: post #55

Hi everyone, I'm the founder of HashiCorp. I want to make something clear up front that this does NOT allow us to see resource usage by Terraform user and does NOT result in credits or revenue sharing at all. HashiCorp has no direct access to this information in any form. Before explaining "why" we do this, I do want to apologize and say that adding this without proper explanation was a mistake. It isn't clear why it…

Great response, thanks for clarifying in detail

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by jcims »

Decision-making like this is the kind of thing that diminishes support for open source in large old-guard type organizations.

Why should terraform get credit for the infrastructure? It doesn’t drive demand. If they want a piece of that, leave it commented with a hat-in-hand appeal.

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by scottmcleod »

mitchellh wrote: post #55

Hi everyone, I'm the founder of HashiCorp. I want to make something clear up front that this does NOT allow us to see resource usage by Terraform user and does NOT result in credits or revenue sharing at all. HashiCorp has no direct access to this information in any form. Before explaining "why" we do this, I do want to apologize and say that adding this without proper explanation was a mistake. It isn't clear why it…

Thanks - Hard to make any better than direct founder reply to clear up confusion.

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by rossmohax »

karambir wrote: post #17
rossmohax wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hashicorp is kinda well known for not engaging with community whatsoever :)

I am not sure about this. Till recently I have mostly used their products with just needing to read some docs and initial guides. Only recently I was using Terraform and Packer so much that I had fumbled on some issues and saw the community discussions on those. Hashicorp was engaging there atleast.

You'll see when you open small bugfix PR and they let it rot or when stumble upin years old issue, discussed over and over again without any resolution in sight.

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by orvtech »

mitchellh wrote: post #55

Hi everyone, I'm the founder of HashiCorp. I want to make something clear up front that this does NOT allow us to see resource usage by Terraform user and does NOT result in credits or revenue sharing at all. HashiCorp has no direct access to this information in any form. Before explaining "why" we do this, I do want to apologize and say that adding this without proper explanation was a mistake. It isn't clear why it…

> ...Going forward, we will be building an option to opt out of using this partner ID...

One should be opted out by default and the option should be build to opt in.

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by takeda »

mitchellh wrote: post #55

Hi everyone, I'm the founder of HashiCorp. I want to make something clear up front that this does NOT allow us to see resource usage by Terraform user and does NOT result in credits or revenue sharing at all. HashiCorp has no direct access to this information in any form. Before explaining "why" we do this, I do want to apologize and say that adding this without proper explanation was a mistake. It isn't clear why it…

Why an user agent is not enough to do just that?

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by trpc »

Thanks for the swift response from the founder, I just don't understand those types of sneaky github issues that surprisingly get very rapidly to the HN frontpage as smear campaign against startups, when even setting the application name and version in the user agent header in a FOSS application that can be opted-out is considered spying, then everything can be spying

Re: Remove default "terraform" partner_id

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Post by c3534l »

dewey wrote: post #38
c3534l wrote: post #31

Anyone know if this causes users to become noncompliant with GDPR, FedRAMP, or similar regulatory protections?

Did you read what the issue is even about? It's about setting the string "terraform" in a config file. It's not some personal data or evil tracking token.

So then the answer is no? No need to be rude about it and stop projecting. It was a simple question about the implications are of what info partner IDs send.
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