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Re: AirPods Pro

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I’m going to get these as soon as I can. I’ve been addicted to my Bose 35 but tbh they are a bit bulky. Also, I need noise cancellation and have been waiting for Apple to release their version of it. A bit bold here but I’m going to assume their NC experience is beyond anything else on the market in the same form factor. Look at Bose for example and their in-ear alternative; you have to wear a bulky necklace to get t…

Will you try the cheaper Echo Buds ? They don't have pure ANC.

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Is there some type of battery technology out there that would be better? The batteries are half the product.

In the older bose headsets you could slap an AAA batteries and be good for a while. These types of batteries won't disappear anytime soon. Anyway, in 5 years when bose stops producing the qc35 battery pack no one will be able to replace them whereas people using bose qc25 will just have to get new AAA batteries. Either apple talks the talk and walks the walk or it simply shut up about climate, no one cares about virt…

> In the older bose headsets you could slap an AAA batteries and be good for a while. These types of batteries won't disappear anytime soon.

You'll generate far more waste from AAA batteries in the time it takes for the Airpod batteries to require disposal.

Re: AirPods Pro

#363

Bummer that this requires Catalina on the Mac. I'm not ready to take that plunge, so I guess I won't be getting Airpods Pro soon either!

Similarly, it's not compatible with iPhone 6, which is what I have. Oh well. I really want these but I'm probably better off not paying $250 for something like this. edit: wait a minute... they say the same thing for the regular AirPods, but I use them all the time.

You might find that you can’t properly configure them, enable noise canceling, auto measure your ear size, or that the built-in firmware update process introduced into iOS at some point doesn’t work and thus your devices run into bugs or perform less well in certain scenarios due to their out of date firmware.

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Thanks! So it actually destroys the sound and it has no effect? Or does it have an effect on your hearing, but you don’t perceive it?

Based on my knowledge of physics, the wave is eliminated and not in any way perceivable.

I would say it would depend on the position of the microphone, the speed of the electronics and the ability of the speaker to reproduce the negative wave at the microphone.

I don't think it could work perfectly. It would be like putting a beach-ball offshore and using it's motion to move a log closer to shore up and down to cancel all waves hitting a beach.

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> I want to buy something once and not have to think about it for a long time. A thousand times this ^ And ideally for everything: phone, computer, headphones, clothes, etc. Personally, I own one pair of pants that I know will last about 2 years before I need to replace them, then just buy exactly the same pair again. Same with t-shirts, except I own about 10 of the same and replace 2 or 3 once a year (each one will…

Kind of trying something similar. My jeans seem to be tough enough, but I’ve had a hard time with t-shirts. I’m looking for plain t-shirts without logos. What brands do you buy?

For t-shirts, Banana Republic (although they keep changing the styles and colors slightly over time, which could also be considered a good thing).

For jeans, Levi's.

Haven't really tried too many brands, but those two were good enough for me that I don't feel like I need to make the decision for those two items ever again.

Re: AirPods Pro

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I've demoed my $25 Anker or mpow earbuds (the Airpod-likes) to many coworkers sporting Airpods and they're universally astounded by the quality of the cheaper buds. I've converted quite a few people who lost their Airpods. The chead buds don't sound quite as good as Airpods, but they're 85% of the way there, fit better, can actually handle the rain and sweat without breaking down, can be used during exercise without…

I think most of the magic is Bluetooth 5. After years and years of trying Bluetooth headphones I only found them acceptable under very specific circumstances (only certain types of exercising). AirPods really seemed to fix most of the long standing issues. But the cost, even for people who would immediately go buy another pair, does suck. When I used Not as a counter to your story, but I know someone who was gifted k…

> I think most of the magic is Bluetooth 5.

Doubt so, Bluetooth 5 doesn't really do anything with audio streaming. Check this out: https://habr.com/en/post/456182/, in particular:

> Only one change affected the Classic version within the specification of Bluetooth 5: support for the Slot Availability Mask (SAM) technology, designed to improve radio frequency sharing. All other changes affect only Bluetooth LE (the same applies to Higher Output Power too).

> All audio devices use only Bluetooth Classic. Headphones and speakers cannot be connected via Bluetooth Low Energy. There is no standard for transmitting audio using LE. The A2DP standard, used to transmit high-quality audio, works only through Bluetooth Classic, and there is no equivalent in LE.

> To sum up: buying audio devices with Bluetooth 5 only because of the new version of the protocol is meaningless. Bluetooth 4.0/4.1/4.2 in the context of audio transmission will work the same way.

> If the announcement of the new headphone mentions a doubled radius and reduced power consumption thanks to Bluetooth 5, then you should know that they either do not understand themselves or mislead you. No wonder, even the manufacturers of Bluetooth chips confuse the difference in both standards, and some Bluetooth 5 chips support the fifth version only for LE, and use 4.2 for Classic.

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I was wondering if they were talking about the Anker Soundcore Liberty, but those are still $75.

Try Taotronics, the ones that look like AirPods. Those are quite good for around 40.

Can't find any that aren't in-ear, I don't like those, does anyone have any non-in ear recommendations?

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I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

Why spend $100 on a nice dinner, we'll just have to eat again in 8 hours.

Yeah you might want to read up on climate chance.

Re: AirPods Pro

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I think most of the magic is Bluetooth 5. After years and years of trying Bluetooth headphones I only found them acceptable under very specific circumstances (only certain types of exercising). AirPods really seemed to fix most of the long standing issues. But the cost, even for people who would immediately go buy another pair, does suck. When I used Not as a counter to your story, but I know someone who was gifted k…

> I think most of the magic is Bluetooth 5. Doubt so, Bluetooth 5 doesn't really do anything with audio streaming. Check this out: https://habr.com/en/post/456182/ , in particular: > Only one change affected the Classic version within the specification of Bluetooth 5: support for the Slot Availability Mask (SAM) technology, designed to improve radio frequency sharing. All other changes affect only Bluetooth LE (the s…

I haven't followed the specs closely. My grievances with bluetooth weren't around audio quality. They were all around pairing, battery life, reliability during use, and how annoying and frustrating general use was. Maybe this all came from 4.2 and a combination of other tech like available chips or better implementation? For whatever reason, not long after AirPods were released I hear competing headphones improved significantly. I know often can take years and suddenly someone comes along with a clever design pattern everyone else implements on top of old hardware or existing specs.

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I agree about the headphones, but I got a full decade of use from my WM-D6 Walkman Pro and its (optional, removable) rechargeable battery pack. I replaced it with a WM-D6C which still worked the last time I tried it, a few years ago now. High-quality gear was definitely available in the '80s, if you were willing to pay for it — and might have been cheaper in the long run.

So instead of tiny, expensive headphones last 18-24 months, you had an even more expensive cassette player which might last 5 years, with headphones that lasted less than a year, and expensive bulky rechargeable battery packs which lasted about 6 months if you were lucky. How is this better than a set of headphones which last 18+ months? Just the NiCd battery packs were something like 20 times bulkier than the AirPod…

I'm not suggesting it was better overall; I'm not sure how you read me that way. I'm just saying that reliable gear was available.

(Only 6 months out of a set of NiCds??? I got multiple years out of more than one set. NiCds are very easy to take care of; just remember that they need exercise. Always drain them fully before charging, and make sure not to overcharge.)

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