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Tether: The Story So Far

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Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#191
post #44

Can you make this into a movie please? I will fund the kickstarter campaign.

Would be quite a boring movie I think.

Thought the same when a film about Facebook was announced

> “I think there will be a Bitcoin Billionaires movie,” Mezrich said to close the panel after hinting at it multiple times. “Hopefully Armie [Hammer] will come back and play these guys.” (the Winklevii)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2019/07/10/author-wh...

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#192
post #70

> I have looked, quite a bit. I have not found a good use case yet I'm always surprised that intelligent and knowledgeable people claim this. You haven't even found a single use case? You don't think buying a VPN anonymously is a good use case? Or see the need for uncensorable donations? (Remember how the U.S. shut down Wikileak's PayPal donations when they exposed their war crimes?) Or that cryptocurrencies allow bu…

You respond twice downthread that while Bitcoin may not be anonymous, Monero is. Do you then concede that anonymous payments are not a major use case for the non-anonymous Bitcoin protocol? Why then is Bitcoin so valuable?

There's a spectrum of anonymity. Bitcoin isn't automatically anonymous to law enforcement, but not everything is about being anonymous to law enforcement specifically. It's nice to have the ability to make a purchase or a donation without my name and phone number being put on aggregated marketing lists, etc.

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#193

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Agreed - also IMHO it's mostly used for speculation, and hopefully shouldn't be the case. Speculation can't last forever, but a few good use cases might.

Why can't it last? Casionos/betting seem to be doing well.

The thinking probably goes "eventually, enough people will either want their money back or a positive ROI on their investment that they'll pull out of crypto and the price will stabilize around people who actually intend to use it". I personally don't think this is necessarily the case in the current economic environment of ridiculously low interest rates.

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#194
post #70

> I have looked, quite a bit. I have not found a good use case yet I'm always surprised that intelligent and knowledgeable people claim this. You haven't even found a single use case? You don't think buying a VPN anonymously is a good use case? Or see the need for uncensorable donations? (Remember how the U.S. shut down Wikileak's PayPal donations when they exposed their war crimes?) Or that cryptocurrencies allow bu…

It’s easy to make these types of arguments when one’s never been unbanked, or tried living somewhere long term without yet having citizenship.

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#195

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How do the people receiving your remittances cash them out to something usable? Is there a Venezuelan local bitcoins thing?

Yes there is, sometimes they don't even remit but rather use btc. I send $10 a month to ~5 people in Venezuela and it's one of the only ways now to help out and/or live there

Can you provide more detail on how they actually use the bitcoin? Genuinely curious as in most countries the use cases are very limited, and there is a large cut when converting into/out of bitcoin that doesn't make it worth it.

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#196

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This is of course anecdata, but I've personally used BTC to send remittances in Venezuela. I'm not sure how many people here use BTC as a means of preserving the value of their money since most people would rather hold USD, but for sending remittances, it cannot be beat. As another interesting anecdote, my sister is in Argentina and a bunch of friends started asking her how to buy BTC before the election yesterday. S…

How do the people receiving your remittances cash them out to something usable? Is there a Venezuelan local bitcoins thing?

Yep, Localbitcoins is usually the way.

There are also a few shops (even one very large shop) accepting some cryptos now, like BTC and Dash. I'm not sure what volume they are seeing in sales though.

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#197
post #147

Tether problems are known. It's surprising that crypto sphere continues using it. I guess it's a good way to connect digital native Bitcoin to the rest of the world, aka, fiat. I've been advocating for Bitflate. It's a cryptocurrency with constant inflation. The idea is to create a digital native and decentralized stablecoin. We won't get perfectly stable price. But it will not be controlled by a single entity. I thi…

You mean Freicoin?

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#198
post #14

"Players in the crypto ecosystem will be shocked, shocked to know it got this bad, this quickly, but this has been an open secret for over a year." ---- I'm not entirely in agreement the crypto world will be shocked tether is insolvent. As long the the fiat gateways exist to exit the system with gains intact, most could care less about tether. It's musical chairs.

See Redoubt's comment. The use of "shocked, shocked" is meant ironically, in reference to a scene from Casablanca. In general when you see the word "shocked" doubled like that it basically always means this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

A memorable performance by Claude Rains

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#199

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Yes there is, sometimes they don't even remit but rather use btc. I send $10 a month to ~5 people in Venezuela and it's one of the only ways now to help out and/or live there

Can you provide more detail on how they actually use the bitcoin? Genuinely curious as in most countries the use cases are very limited, and there is a large cut when converting into/out of bitcoin that doesn't make it worth it.

There was solid episode of Odd Lots on cryptocurrency usage in Venezuela.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-29/here-s-ho...

Re: Tether: The Story So Far

#200
post #74
post #18

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Where can you sell Tether short in a market that's not controlled by these same unscrupulous manipulators? Shorting makes sense in regulated public markets with plenty of liquidity. Cryptocurrencies aren't like that.

(Outside of the USA) On Poloniex you can short USDT vs. USDC (USDC is the non-sketchy version of Tether) and make your riches. If you put your money where your mouth is! https://poloniex.com/marginTrading#usdc_usdt

The market can remain irrational longer than you can pay the fees to short it.
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