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After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Protected Bike Lanes

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Re: After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Protected Bike Lanes

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Post by pwthornton »

This is big time for America. If our biggest city can’t show leadership on pedestrian and bicyclist safety, we can’t expect any other city to as well.

New York is really lagging behind where it should be. Despite being by far the biggest American city, it is overrun with cars. Protected bike lanes, street improvements to make crossing the street safer, and dedicated bus lanes will improve the city for all New Yorkers. If these changes take off in New York, they will trickle down to the rest of American cities.

New York is marveled at for being such a safe big city from the standpoint of crime, but when you factor in all of the carnage caused by cars, it’s a lot less safe than you might think.

Violent crime has been falling across the country, but pedestrian and bicyclist deaths have been surging. This is a sign of some very bad policy making. Walking should be one of the safest and healthiest things a person can do.

Re: After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Protected Bike Lanes

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Post by greglindahl »

kylek wrote: post #3

I wonder if they can do better than $12 million per mile a la seattle[0] [0] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/12-...

I read the article you cite and the section in question is 4.5 blocks long. And the project included drainage, street lights on the far side away from the bike lane, paving the whole road, sidewalks, etc.

The Seattle city-wide average was $2mm/mile.

Very informative article, and it is completely different from what I thought I'd read based on your summary.

Re: After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Protected Bike Lanes

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Post by save_ferris »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #4

Why do deaths have to be the trigger to prioritize safety? Examples: Boeing, this article, and a recent HN post [0], etc. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21374525

Because big money talks until public deaths bring these scandals into the spotlight.

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Post by iamalexm »

pwthornton wrote: post #5

This is big time for America. If our biggest city can’t show leadership on pedestrian and bicyclist safety, we can’t expect any other city to as well. New York is really lagging behind where it should be. Despite being by far the biggest American city, it is overrun with cars. Protected bike lanes, street improvements to make crossing the street safer, and dedicated bus lanes will improve the city for all New Yorkers…

The fact that they have outlawed and happily tweet about confiscating e-bikes is digusting. NYC has a long ways to go.

Re: After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Protected Bike Lanes

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Post by Someone1234 »

kylek wrote: post #3

I wonder if they can do better than $12 million per mile a la seattle[0] [0] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/12-...

Good article. Misleading title.

As the articles goes on to point out, only that single section in the entire project will be that expensive, and that includes a lot of city upgrades that were otherwise needed and rolled into this (like new lighting, adding additional drainage, upgraded sidewalks, and new crosswalks).

To be honest the project sounds fantastic and I hope they keep at it. If they're able to roll in other upgrades at the same time, so much the better. The 12m figure is borderline clickbait (even if it is technically true).

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