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U.S. Seeks to Heighten Scrutiny of Foreign Investment in Tech, Infra, Data

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This is a serious f'n problem, and I'm glad it's finally being recognized. When I see PE groups in China outbidding their Western counterparts by absurd multiples, it just reeks of ulterior motives. EDIT: Spelling police got me.

> wreaks of you mean "reeks" (i.e. "smells", usually bad). It might wreak havoc on the U.S. economy, but it can only "reek" of ulterior motives.

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post #10
post #6

This is a serious f'n problem, and I'm glad it's finally being recognized. When I see PE groups in China outbidding their Western counterparts by absurd multiples, it just reeks of ulterior motives. EDIT: Spelling police got me.

High bids are not strong evidence of ulterior motives. They reflect the fact that many US companies prefer not to take on foreign investors, so those investors have to bid much higher to get the deal.

> so those investors have to bid much higher to get the deal.

And return less money to their fund than they would if they were acquiring companies domestically? Scratches head...

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#15
post #6

This is a serious f'n problem, and I'm glad it's finally being recognized. When I see PE groups in China outbidding their Western counterparts by absurd multiples, it just reeks of ulterior motives. EDIT: Spelling police got me.

Everyone panicked about the Japanese buying up American assets, too.

It's all about 'rising tides lifting all boats' until there's a chance of someone else's boat being almost as high as ours. Then all of a sudden it's about the foreign threat, ulterior motives..

Re: U.S. Seeks to Heighten Scrutiny of Foreign Investment in Tech, Infra, Data

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post #14
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High bids are not strong evidence of ulterior motives. They reflect the fact that many US companies prefer not to take on foreign investors, so those investors have to bid much higher to get the deal.

> so those investors have to bid much higher to get the deal. And return less money to their fund than they would if they were acquiring companies domestically? Scratches head...

There is a lot of unwanted money sloshing around. If you’re an oligarch or kleptocrat with billions to invest, you’re gonna have to accept lower returns.

One reason that Ivy League endowments get consistently above-market returns is that everyone is comfortable taking their money.

EDIT: I sort of conflated foreign and kleptocrat money there, saying they both have to outbid preferred sources. Most foreign money is not from kleptocrats, of course.

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#17
post #10
post #6

This is a serious f'n problem, and I'm glad it's finally being recognized. When I see PE groups in China outbidding their Western counterparts by absurd multiples, it just reeks of ulterior motives. EDIT: Spelling police got me.

High bids are not strong evidence of ulterior motives. They reflect the fact that many US companies prefer not to take on foreign investors, so those investors have to bid much higher to get the deal.

> They reflect the fact that many US companies prefer not to take on foreign investors

There is no evidence for this being the cause of the price premium. There is substantial evidence that capital flight predicts which countries overpay for foreign assets. Russia and China are better explained by the capital flight hypothesis.

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#18
post #4

This is like...two decades too late. China has their fingers in everything now.

Like these personal data collection “ad tech” companies that are staffed by foreign nationals who send the data back to their homelands. Most Americans (not in tech) don’t get that there’s a dossier on everyone.

Re: U.S. Seeks to Heighten Scrutiny of Foreign Investment in Tech, Infra, Data

#20
It's about time that the US start standing up to China's unrestricted warfare [1]. It's amazing that most Americans don't realize that China views the US as an adversary and has been quietly waging a war against the West. Why there are people who welcome the rise of Chinese/CCP hegemony when they are actively looking to crush [2] "Western values" is beyond me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Number_Nine

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