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Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by pfranz » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

graeme wrote: post #100

What’s the word on active noise cancellation and hearing protection? I currently avoid using headphones in loud environments, and my quick test is if I can hear myself talk over the music. This page says the active cancellation uses “anti-noise”, which iirc is noise, at frequencies that drown out the outside noise. But I’m not really sure about this. So, if we were in say a 85 db environment, would music with these b…

I noticed the recent version of Apple Health on my iPhone logs and warns about dB levels of headphones. So I imagine they're at least thinking about this and I'm really curious to see how it plays out.

I have noticed with other headphones with active noise cancelation I'm able to have the volume set much much lower, but I haven't done strict testing and I am comparing over-the-ear with noise canceling against earbuds.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by robocat » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

RaiseProfits wrote: post #71

webwielder2 wrote: post #9

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Why spend $100 on a nice dinner, we'll just have to eat again in 8 hours.

Your dinner isn’t made of mold injected plastic.

Dinner for many people in the world was made using fertiliser, or feedstock was. Fertiliser is often nitrogen based, made from ammonia, made from natural gas. Using natural gas and oil is often worse than plastics (which somewhat embed the energy).

https://grist.org/article/2010-02-11-tracking-u-s-farmers-su...

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by pfranz » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

robertoandred wrote: post #185

iikoolpp wrote: post #142

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I disagree; this website is awful. If you hijack the scroll event to do something like this, instead of just... letting me scroll, you're very much going to hell.

This is not hijacking the scroll event. Look at the scrollbar. The page scrolls exactly as you'd expect according to your input method and operating system.

I know it's not technically correct, but I tend to conflate "hijacking scroll event" as both receiving a scroll event and doing something that weird or slows down my browser along with something that manipulates scrolling since they have similar effects to an end user.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by chooseaname » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

bsamuels wrote: post #3

I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

What about all the people who are just going to chuck these in a landfill instead of properly recycling them? Apple can get all chuffed about acting like they're green, but they have to know these are landfill fodder.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by robotresearcher » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #203

graeme wrote: post #100

What’s the word on active noise cancellation and hearing protection? I currently avoid using headphones in loud environments, and my quick test is if I can hear myself talk over the music. This page says the active cancellation uses “anti-noise”, which iirc is noise, at frequencies that drown out the outside noise. But I’m not really sure about this. So, if we were in say a 85 db environment, would music with these b…

If you're really concerned about noise reduction, I personally recommend headphones that block noise, not counter it. An example would be the Shure IEM line, which acts like an earplug, and which provide a flat 25db attenuation of sound. So, your 85db environment becomes a 60 db environment, and your music can be 65 db. Boise 2 headphones with ANR, in comparison, reduce about 13db of noise at 85db. http://www.hearing…

I'm interested in this, so looked the Shure line up. The cheapest IEM model is SE425CL at $269. Simple wires, no mic. Anyone have experience with them?

https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/earphones/se425cl

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by rovr138 » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #86

bsamuels wrote: post #3

I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

Especially when you can get the same thing, sans the apple logo, for 30$. EDIT: You can downvote, but it's still the truth :p

Considering they’re not out and they use Apple custom hardware, how can you make this claim? And if you still want to make it, prove it.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by lowan12 » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 5:58 PM UTC

segmondy wrote: post #191

I don't even want to spend $250 on a new phone, tablet or computer. The world has lost it's damn mind. I have a $10 corded earphones from Amazon, great sound quality, going to 2 years. I can think of what to do with that extra $240 AFTER TAX MONEY than give it to Apple, and here folks are ready to spend it again on a new version.

Okay great. It's obvious that (MANY) people derive value from these beyond just playing sound in your ears, but it's good to hear that you're happy with your earphones as well.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by chooseaname » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 6:00 PM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #152

lm28469 wrote: post #145

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What's killing me is the doublespeak. "We must be eco friendly ! we must save the world ! climate change bad ! look at our renewable energy data centers ! yay !" and then they ship you products that are either unfixable or you need to replace half the product to change the broken part.

Is there some type of battery technology out there that would be better? The batteries are half the product.

> Is there some type of battery technology out there that would be better?

I think the argument is yes, there is - end user replaceable battery.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by imgabe » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 6:00 PM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #221

imgabe wrote: post #96

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I have a Pixel 3 and the horribleness of the Pixel buds has me seriously considering a switch to Apple.

Why? Airpods work with Android.

Not very well in my experience. I did try Airpods for a while and the volume control doesn't work properly. It was impossible to turn them down below a level that was still too loud. The microphone also apparently sounded horrible.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by jotjotzzz » Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

I feel like this pricing is too expensive. At this $249 price point, this is now competing against a used Bose QC 35 II and Sony WH-1000XM3. I guess if you really want an earbud.