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Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by Lunatic666 »

freeqaz wrote: post #75
whalesalad wrote: post #8

I really struggled to take the plunge on the original AirPods and it has been one of my top 10 purchases ever in my life without a doubt. I stood there holding the little $200 box in my hand and really danced back and forth in my mind about whether or not they would really be necessary. If they broke, I would go buy a new pair immediately. For what they are, the sound is amazing. I can't really do a phone call anymor…

I find that I can't use them for phone calls because the other person always complains that my mic is terrible. Is this because of using an Android device? They also don't stay in my ears for the life of me, so exercising at the gym I have to use over-the-ear headphones. I think this impacts the sound for me, as well, since they sound better when I hold them in my ear versus when I let go. Any recommendations for wha…

I have exactly the same problem, that the pods would fall out after 30s, faster when I'm moving. I gave them to my wife and for her it's like they're glued in. I tried using the pod-"cushions". While they work I have to remove them every time for charging. So I'm a little jealous about people with compatible ears.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by the_gastropod »

shanemlk wrote: post #98
_wzsf wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It doesn't matter how much garbage I produce, everyone else makes way more!"

Replace "everyone" with "large corporations" and I think it's a pretty sound argument.

Uuuugh. This line of thinking, though rooted in good intentions (hold corporations responsible for better behavior) is deeply flawed.

Corporations don't exist in a vacuum. They have customers they're serving. We don't get to just pretend our behavior doesn't matter because some bogeymen (corporations) are doing worse things, then continue to voluntarily hand our money to those very same corporations.

We (individuals) bear responsibility, too. We vote with out dollars. Yes, we can't control the other 7.7 Billion people on the planet. But we can control our own behavior, and lead by example.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by orev »

cs02rm0 wrote: post #153

People complain the Pro moniker is losing meaning on a MBP - does it mean anything here?

Sealed silicone tips and active noise cancellation would seem to differentiate them enough from the regular AirPods to make them “pro”.

But the concept of “pro” meaning “for professional content producers” is long over.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by tommaho »

jedieaston wrote: post #94
tommaho wrote: post #45

Is hearing assistance in development yet? How far out is that? I'd shell out hundreds with a smile if these could be used to offset my hearing loss.

Live Listen is the closest they have right now. Works fine on the current AirPods, then again I don't have hearing loss. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203990

News to me, thank you!

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by MBCook »

cs02rm0 wrote: post #153

People complain the Pro moniker is losing meaning on a MBP - does it mean anything here?

It means the same thing it does for all Apple products: ‘premium’.

Here you get noise cancelling.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by ctdonath »

bsamuels wrote: post #3

I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

Recall that Apple is big into 100% recycling. Don't discard dead AirPods, get them "repaired" (replaced) at cost and let Apple recycle the components/materials.

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Post by pohl »

lm28469 wrote: post #133
graeme wrote: post #117

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Thanks! So it actually destroys the sound and it has no effect? Or does it have an effect on your hearing, but you don’t perceive it?

You can definitely tell something is going on when the active noise canceling is on but it's not a big deal most of the time. It's good at blocking repetitive noise (office, car, plane) but bad at blocking other things like a car horn, a gun, someone clapping, &c.

How about wind noise?

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by rohit2412 »

lucisferre wrote: post #81
danepowell wrote: post #74

You've been able to get pretty decent Bluetooth in-ear headphones for $20-40 on Amazon for a few years now, can anyone comment on whether AirPods are really 10x better to justify the price? I just have a hard time believing that's possible, but I've never tried them.

I've never found a "decent" pair of Bluetooth anything. Pairing is almost always an annoyance and never quite just "works". If I'm heading out for a walk or a run, or if I want to answer a call, it needs to pair and work immediately or I may as well throw them in the trash. Airpods were the first headphones where they just worked every single time I put them on.

These have worked flawlessly for me.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M5GFPQN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_h...

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by unlinked_dll »

mikestew wrote: post #131
willis936 wrote: post #121

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I have serious reservations about these. They make big claims yet miss some important, basic design choices. For instance: you will get zero bass with an open back design and the active noise cancellation operates at 200 Hz (presumably) so you can forget about cancelling annoying whines from server fans or turbojets. The dynamic EQ based on a microphone is an interesting choice. This could have really good results if…

The dynamic EQ based on a microphone is an interesting choice. I don't even know if the two are related, not being sound/audio/whatever expert, but I'm continually amazed that I can blast music on a HomePod, speak in a conversational tone or quieter (of course I've tested), and Siri still hears me. Whatever dark wizardry makes that work would come in handy here, yes? Or is your argument more that, dark magic or not,…

Eh not really.

The limitation on active noise reduction is mostly latency, and hardware constraints when using adaptive filtering in a small package without a large battery.

Whatever "Adaptive EQ" means it may or may not be particularly novel. I've seen worked on things similar for years - changing filter parameters in response to microphone input isn't always easy but it's not untrod ground.

Going to have to listen to it to be the judge of anything, like all audio products.

Re: AirPods Pro

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Post by pwinnski »

Waterluvian wrote: post #46
webwielder2 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why spend $100 on a nice dinner, we'll just have to eat again in 8 hours.

This is such a bad frame of mind if you're someone who owns more than a dorm room of stuff. I used to feel like this about stuff. "Oh it's just $100 and we use it every day, totally okay to replace every few years." But it adds up when you start having to replace 100 different "it's pretty cheap given how often we use it" items in a year. And it's not just the cost. It's also the time you commit to being a consumer.…

I don't think I own 100 items that use batteries. I mean, I'm curious, and I'll make a list, but I'm definitely not replacing things every year.

I've got a MacBook that's a few years old, an iPhone that's two years old, and AirPods that are less than a year old, and... my Apple TV remote is many years old and still only needs charging every couple of months. My Kindle is many years old and only needs charging every couple of weeks. My two USB power bricks still seem to be doing well. One is three years old, the other almost a year old. Apple Watch is about two years old, still makes it through almost two full days on a charge.

I think everything else electronic either plugs in or uses replaceable batteries (garage door opener, car keys).

I might be forgetting something, but 100 items is an order of magnitude more than I think I use, and I'm not replacing most of them most years.

And yes, I clearly consume a lot of Apple kit. I like to think I don't do so blindly, though.

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