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Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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My Fitbit Versa is my favorite smartwatch (and I have two Android Wear watches in a drawer that couldn't get one full WORK day of battery) I'd love to see the Pebble hardware running Android Wear (maybe fixed by Fitbit to last longer) with Pixel branding. I'm hopeful.

I bought a versa and immediately regretted not getting an apple watch. The majority of fitbit apps are trash and they're pretty limited.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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Pebble hardware could never run Android Wear. It has 256 kilobytes of RAM! Android Wear requires two thousand times more RAM than that. That's the really impressive achievement of Pebble. They built a smartwatch software platform that was orders of magnitude more efficient than Apple or Google, but still a joy to use. That efficiency gave them the flexibility to make hardware design choices (e.g. 7 day battery or 7.5…

Not only that, despite the extreme technical limitations underpinning the device, they built a dev environment that was a joy to use, and an API that was intuitive and powerful, supported by great documentation. Pebble really was something special.

I actually find the limitations are what make it fun to develop for.

I can make a Pebble app that feels complete without doing any real design work. Because there's not much design that can be done.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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post #15

I'd still love to hear a convincing argument from someone as to the benefits of counting steps and measuring heart rate with a wrist band- Are people feeling like they are more fit because they walked to lunch "the long way" so they can reach the 10000 step goal that Fred from accounting has set for them? Do they feel healthier because they were regularly watching their heart rate reading during their hour in the gym…

I think it works for me, but wouldn't necessarily recommend it randomly. I really like having sleep tracking and some relative measure of "activeness." If I want to change up my routine (start walking more) it's good to know roughly how much of an impact it is. I also like getting buzzed every hour if I've been sitting still.

I think it's good if you're otherwise committed to improving on one of those things, but wearing it it wont help you any more than buying dumbbells and leaving them unused int he attic.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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post #33

Oh no. First they f*cked up nest and now fitbit?

Nest seems to have only improved under Google? They were floundering before the purchase.

That said, they ought to do Google auth integration as it's really annoying to maintain a separate Nest account for those products.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

#85
If Google could tap into fitbit's data, they could implement some headline features to rival Apple watch's fall detection.

Sleep tracking is another area in which fitbit is one of the best, if not the best among peers.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

#87

My Fitbit Versa is my favorite smartwatch (and I have two Android Wear watches in a drawer that couldn't get one full WORK day of battery) I'd love to see the Pebble hardware running Android Wear (maybe fixed by Fitbit to last longer) with Pixel branding. I'm hopeful.

Pebble hardware could never run Android Wear. It has 256 kilobytes of RAM! Android Wear requires two thousand times more RAM than that. That's the really impressive achievement of Pebble. They built a smartwatch software platform that was orders of magnitude more efficient than Apple or Google, but still a joy to use. That efficiency gave them the flexibility to make hardware design choices (e.g. 7 day battery or 7.5…

coworker bought pebble preorder - when it arrived he was very underwhelmed and disappointed at what he bought.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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post #15

I'd still love to hear a convincing argument from someone as to the benefits of counting steps and measuring heart rate with a wrist band- Are people feeling like they are more fit because they walked to lunch "the long way" so they can reach the 10000 step goal that Fred from accounting has set for them? Do they feel healthier because they were regularly watching their heart rate reading during their hour in the gym…

> Are people feeling like they are more fit because they walked to lunch "the long way" so they can reach the 10000 step goal that Fred from accounting has set for them? I think it would be hard to argue that it DOESN'T make you more fit? If you normally have say 500 steps in a day, and the FitBit convinces you (through gamification, visibility into the metrics, or whatever it may be) to now take 2,000 steps in a day…

It's possible that spending time on those 1500 extra steps might help. However, it takes a decent chunk of time to walk 1500 steps, and there are so many forms of exercise you could do in that same time that might be far more valuable for your health... and a lot of them actually could be a lot more fun for most people if they take some effort to discover them.

I worry that these tools perform a sort of psychological trick on people that resembles a "denial of service attack", fooling them into thinking they are using their time wisely by just walking around more, even if the benefits are negligible & leading them to avoid exploring other options.

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

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My concern would stem from them attempting to replace the firmware with Android Wear. Because Android Wear is licenced they may feel pressure to use the same os so as not to upset licensees such that any improvements to AW on Fitbit gets shared. Or they may go the Nest route with custom firmware based on Fitbit. It will be interesting

Re: Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit

#90

Every person I've talked to over at Fitbit (pre-this news) has been down on the company. Sounds like they've had trouble effectively scaling software/new hardware to the level of success that the initial device had. While this could easily be another money sink for Google as they attempt to figure out some sort of Android wearable, it also has the potential to be an Instagram level-acquisition. Non-Apple wearables se…

Something definitely has been off at Fitbit - I had their first device and then after swearing off smartwatches got a new Fitbit for Christmas. 10 months later I'm on my 3rd watch from them - the first one stopped taking a charge after a few months, the second one the screen went out in a week or two. I'm hoping the third time is the charm

Meanwhile try one, then try an older Apple watch, the Fitbit is straight up trash (with nicer battery life.) Fitbit UX is bad, and requires tons of interaction between the phone and watch and is remarkably hard to use, even switching watch faces requires digging multiple screens into the fitbit app and a 30+ second sync period, on the Apple watch this is known as 'swiping right' or at worst, holding down and tapping 'add new'.

The Pebble was worlds better at this, when I used the Versa I was surprised by it. It sells tons even though Wear OS is way ahead.

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