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A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by chelmzy »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #10
chelmzy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just purchased their product as it is at the top of the EDR market. Could you explain your comment?

As CTO I looked at it as well. The product isn’t the issue. Well, let me fix that by saying if you don’t mind your all data being entirely entirely open to your cloud protection system and their partners and contractors in a way that is completely black box, there is nothing wrong with the product. It’s the practices and their work with the FBI that came up from the 2016 election and their protection of the DNC when…

The logs they send to their cloud (which is just Splunk in AWS) seems pretty transparent. In fact you can pull the raw logs directly from them via S3 buckets to see exactly what data is uploaded.

When you say it's a black box what portion of the product are you referring to?

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by notzuck »

wildmusings wrote: post #3

Here is a proper news article for those who can do without a dozen pages of drivel about the CEO's hairdo, flying lessons, and underwear shopping: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/18/fbi_raids_cybersecu...

Whilst theregister.co.uk does get straight to the point. the newyorker article tells a very interesting story about his work in hacking P2P, working with the secret service, trying to sell his software to the FBI, GPS tracking his mates cheating wife etc.

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by diminoten »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #10
chelmzy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just purchased their product as it is at the top of the EDR market. Could you explain your comment?

As CTO I looked at it as well. The product isn’t the issue. Well, let me fix that by saying if you don’t mind your all data being entirely entirely open to your cloud protection system and their partners and contractors in a way that is completely black box, there is nothing wrong with the product. It’s the practices and their work with the FBI that came up from the 2016 election and their protection of the DNC when…

What exactly was the failure you're talking about?

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by tptacek »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #10
chelmzy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just purchased their product as it is at the top of the EDR market. Could you explain your comment?

As CTO I looked at it as well. The product isn’t the issue. Well, let me fix that by saying if you don’t mind your all data being entirely entirely open to your cloud protection system and their partners and contractors in a way that is completely black box, there is nothing wrong with the product. It’s the practices and their work with the FBI that came up from the 2016 election and their protection of the DNC when…

Could you maybe take your political arguments somewhere else? This isn't a political thread, and yet another debate about Russia and Crowdstrike will easily drown out any other discussion we could possibly have about this New Yorker article. Even if you don't mean it to be, this might as well be trolling.

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by Ozumandias »

notzuck wrote: post #13
wildmusings wrote: post #3

Here is a proper news article for those who can do without a dozen pages of drivel about the CEO's hairdo, flying lessons, and underwear shopping: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/18/fbi_raids_cybersecu...

Whilst theregister.co.uk does get straight to the point. the newyorker article tells a very interesting story about his work in hacking P2P, working with the secret service, trying to sell his software to the FBI, GPS tracking his mates cheating wife etc.

Yeah, people on here don't seem to understand that you read the New Yorker for narrative and literary craft, not for getting information as fast as possible.

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by [deleted] »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #6

I thought it was going to be Crowdstrike. But I suppose that hasn’t happened yet. Whatever tech, whatever assets, whatever they have, you can do as you will, I would need to have my head in the sand to be doing business with them. Too much smoke not to be at least a little fire. Just my opinion of course! Edit: One of those times practicality clashes with politics apparently. Can’t say anything bad about the company…

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Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by armitron »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #12

The author seems to confuse peer-to-peer file sharing networks and onion routing. The explanations in the article don't make any sense.

What doesn't make sense? Limewire is P2P.

My impression of the -sparse- darknet mentions is that they were independently (= not through their P2P monitoring software) looking for useful data there and manually inserting it into their datastore.

Re: A Cybersecurity Firm’s Sharp Rise and Stunning Collapse

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Post by SilasX »

Ozumandias wrote: post #16
notzuck wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whilst theregister.co.uk does get straight to the point. the newyorker article tells a very interesting story about his work in hacking P2P, working with the secret service, trying to sell his software to the FBI, GPS tracking his mates cheating wife etc.

Yeah, people on here don't seem to understand that you read the New Yorker for narrative and literary craft, not for getting information as fast as possible.

And New Yorker article submitters don't understand that the HN crowd tends to prefer the Register style, at least for providing a focal point where everyone can get up to speed quickly for a productive discussion.
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