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What does measles vaccination in Brooklyn have to do with syringe reuse in Ratodero?
Lack of proper understanding of healthcare science?
Seems like the issue here is poverty, not lack of understanding.
900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
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Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
They'll just end up even poorer if their kids get diseases through the syringes.
The alternative is that the children don't get medical treatment and die.
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#53This news report makes my mind boggle. Reuse of syringes? In this century? The doctor says he was too poor to afford syringes! So reuse of syringes is the solution? Bill the cost of the syringe to the patient. Ask for donations. Do whatever it takes but never reuse a syringe. How can a doctor find reuse of syringes remotely acceptable?
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything.
What would be nice is if someone tried to find a viable solution for this issue, something that actually worked and was affordable.
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. What would be nice is if someone tried to find a viable solution for this issue, something that actually worked and was affordable.
This is a possible solution for healthcare in the first world, but not the third world.
"Affordability" makes no sense when these families (families, not individuals) are earning a few pennies a day. The only solution is to give stuff away for free at a loss. No amount of innovation or cost savings can fix the fact that people (and even institutions) cannot afford syringes.
The only real issue in the third world is none other than lack of capital generating opportunities. Anyone who has capital can participate in the global economy and fix their own problems. Anyone who has a job can perform daily labor to earn capital that can fix their problems. The people who get lost - the people stuck in the third world - are offered no opportunities that would enable them to trade their labor for capital. If there were enough of these opportunities, all of these problems would go away.
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. What would be nice is if someone tried to find a viable solution for this issue, something that actually worked and was affordable.
This is a possible solution for healthcare in the first world, but not the third world. "Affordability" makes no sense when these families (families, not individuals) are earning a few pennies a day. The only solution is to give stuff away for free at a loss. No amount of innovation or cost savings can fix the fact that people (and even institutions) cannot afford syringes. The only real issue in the third world is n…
In the third world, when IVs are not available to treat dehydration, they spoon feed people water. It takes up to two hours, but it's safe and effective.
I did it once for one of my children. He was four and I didn't want him to be subjected to an IV.
Possible solutions include an oral or topical medication to replace the injected medication.
The poor in the US often also need actual affordable solutions that work. That seems to have improved some in recent years.
It won't exist if no one even bothers to try.
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#56What's (not) shocking is how stigmatized the HIV-positive population is. Authorities are literally segregating the HIV-positive children into a different side of the room from the rest. An obvious effect of this is that people will be terrified to get tested at all, as it's all downside with the possible upside of treatment being a distant dream. And that makes it both harder to evaluate the spread of the disease, an…
Quarantining infected people who have an incurable disease is not really that illogical when you have no medication capable of treating them. Can you imagine if the US had done mandatory testing and quarantine all those years ago? Obviously many people would have had their rights violated to do that, but it might have stopped the disease a long time ago. Voluntary self-quarantine clearly doesn't work. > will be terri…
Yikessss the 1980's US government quarantining a huge percentage of the gay community... That ain't it.
HIV is not easy to communicate to other people. Education and PrEP have reduced the problem immensely.
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#57Is HN really the best place for pearl-clutching poverty porn?
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quarantining infected people who have an incurable disease is not really that illogical when you have no medication capable of treating them. Can you imagine if the US had done mandatory testing and quarantine all those years ago? Obviously many people would have had their rights violated to do that, but it might have stopped the disease a long time ago. Voluntary self-quarantine clearly doesn't work. > will be terri…
Yikessss the 1980's US government quarantining a huge percentage of the gay community... That ain't it. HIV is not easy to communicate to other people. Education and PrEP have reduced the problem immensely.
I agree, but PrEP isn't available to them. So what else do you expect them to do?
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#59Abhorable. Root cause may indeed be poverty and greed but also the uncontrolled population growth that in itself is the cause and effect of poverty.
Pakistani government (read military for all intents and purposes) is focused on concentrating wealth, power and land in the hands of generals, their children and a few land owners while the population at large is fed a steady diet of lies about enemies at the border and beyond.
This fear of others (india, isreal, america even) is used to spend and therefore siphon the resources into the pockets of powerful few. The stage is different, the story not so much.
Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#60What's (not) shocking is how stigmatized the HIV-positive population is. Authorities are literally segregating the HIV-positive children into a different side of the room from the rest. An obvious effect of this is that people will be terrified to get tested at all, as it's all downside with the possible upside of treatment being a distant dream. And that makes it both harder to evaluate the spread of the disease, an…
Quarantining infected people who have an incurable disease is not really that illogical when you have no medication capable of treating them. Can you imagine if the US had done mandatory testing and quarantine all those years ago? Obviously many people would have had their rights violated to do that, but it might have stopped the disease a long time ago. Voluntary self-quarantine clearly doesn't work. > will be terri…
Stfu you stupid fascist shit. "Lets just throw the sick gays in a camp!" fuck you.
> many people would have had their rights violated
The worst part about you is that you fucking know this is wrong but you're making it out like a 'rational' decision. That's straight nazi shit.