I mean not exactly surprising. We literally just had a measles outbreak in Brooklyn last year. Vaccination rates are basically a prediction market on events like this happening.
What does measles vaccination in Brooklyn have to do with syringe reuse in Ratodero?
900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
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#22This news report makes my mind boggle. Reuse of syringes? In this century? The doctor says he was too poor to afford syringes! So reuse of syringes is the solution? Bill the cost of the syringe to the patient. Ask for donations. Do whatever it takes but never reuse a syringe. How can a doctor find reuse of syringes remotely acceptable?
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
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#23I mean not exactly surprising. We literally just had a measles outbreak in Brooklyn last year. Vaccination rates are basically a prediction market on events like this happening.
What does measles vaccination in Brooklyn have to do with syringe reuse in Ratodero?
That said, the epidemic itself is thought to have started as an offshoot of the epidemic in Israel. And right before the epidemic in Israel there was one in Pakistan, so there may be a direct connection as well.
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#24In some jurisdictions, auto-disposable needles are now required to be used to prevent things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_syringe
https://www.google.com/search?q=micrograph+of+hypodermic+nee...
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
I still for the life of me can't understand how anyone with any medical training at all could reuse a syringe. Some other shortcuts I could imagine, but reusing a syringe is like eventually guaranteeing this kind of outbreak.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
The doctor says the parents of the patient were too poor to afford syringes; and the family was already starving in order to pay for the medicine. Wouldn’t it be nice if patients could afford anything. Reality doesn’t work that way though, and some first world people just can’t imagine what real poverty is like (I can’t either). > When Mr. Jalbani protested, he said, Mr. Ghanghro snapped at him and told him he was us…
I still for the life of me can't understand how anyone with any medical training at all could reuse a syringe. Some other shortcuts I could imagine, but reusing a syringe is like eventually guaranteeing this kind of outbreak.
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#27Re: 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V. in Pakistani city of Ratodero
#28This news report makes my mind boggle. Reuse of syringes? In this century? The doctor says he was too poor to afford syringes! So reuse of syringes is the solution? Bill the cost of the syringe to the patient. Ask for donations. Do whatever it takes but never reuse a syringe. How can a doctor find reuse of syringes remotely acceptable?
This is how poverty works - they probably genuinely have no way if getting the needed stuff even if they knew how important it is.
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#29An obvious effect of this is that people will be terrified to get tested at all, as it's all downside with the possible upside of treatment being a distant dream. And that makes it both harder to evaluate the spread of the disease, and also harder to prevent further transmission of it.
As a selfish aside, I will never get a shave from a barber who doesn't have an autoclave.
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#30>Health officials now say that Mr. Ghanghro is unlikely to be the sole cause of the outbreak. Visiting health workers saw many cases of doctors reusing syringes and I.V. needles. Barbers take the same razor to the faces of multiple customers, they said, and roadside dentists crack away at patients’ teeth on sidewalks with unsterilized tools.
Even here in Melbourne the barber offers to use a cutthroat razor to give the neck a clean shave after a haircut. He's always a little puzzled when I'm "no thanks" to the razor.