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Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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I’ve been working remotely for about 2-3 years now but due to a new job I will be working at an office now starting tomorrow.

It is a terrifying feeling to say the least. I am trying to be optimistic and hope to get over it quick.

Working remotely have been amazing and was a life changing experience for me. It was good in that I got to see the world as it is for the first time. Being able to drive out or walk around the town at any time or anywhere is the most liberating feeling you can have. Prior, I was working in office for over 8 years so I had no idea there was a bustling world outside of the office.

So yeah it is scary to be going back but I am going with the mindset that being able to socialize will be worth the trade off.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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Decoupling work from building connections in meatspace is important. The tech for remote work is improving, and it's saving people in office costs, commute costs, and helps you find talent almost anywhere.

Admittedly some real trust has to be established between employer and employee, and this is still a tough problem to solve generally.

For work I literally use the phone to make calls and send texts to co-workers. There's also conference call software, chat apps, and e-mail. They each offer a different flavor, and you use them as needed and under your terms (usually!). Company flies me down every quarter. It's worked really well for 2+ years.

Now, building and finding communities on your own can feel overwhelming, but it's possible. It's been incredible being able to decide to co-work at a café on Friday with close friends. The same satisfaction from being at an office is there, and without the uncontrollable work-related interruptions.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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I am a fully remote worker nowhere near my "office", which is simply where our company is technically HQd. I have never met my boss or any of my coworkers in person. I do highly technical work, on a team that only hires very senior developers who have prior remote work experience. And I can say, it is NOT for everyone. If you do not have a life out of work, if you live alone, if you do not have a good network of real…

I've been traveling a lot lately to figure out whether I'd want to move. Currently in Denmark which is great in all sorts of ways except the weather. I really hope I can move to South Europe at some point. Unfortunately I don't work remote, but if I did, I'd just cancel my apartment lease, put my things in storage and travel around the world and live out of hotels for a year to find out what I want.

I started remote-working in 2016 and, for the first year, I pretty much did what you're saying. After moving around, I settled back in London (I'm not originally from the UK) for its professional environment. Working remotely makes it difficult to maintain professional network, but that gets easier if you live in a busy city -- frequent events and opportunities to network, but more importantly, a higher density of people working in your field. I still spend quite a bit of time outside of the UK (especially in the winter months), but as a "home" or HQ, I'll still pick the busier city. It's also not that bad when you don't need to commute and you find a neighbourhood with enough of a community culture. I really don't get as stressed as I used to be when I had to take the tube every weekday.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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post #13

I am a fully remote worker nowhere near my "office", which is simply where our company is technically HQd. I have never met my boss or any of my coworkers in person. I do highly technical work, on a team that only hires very senior developers who have prior remote work experience. And I can say, it is NOT for everyone. If you do not have a life out of work, if you live alone, if you do not have a good network of real…

You gotta “make” home. You don’t feel it out somewhere.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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This shocked me: "to encourage wellbeing: 40 days paid vacation per year: True disconnection is fundamental to help people de-stress and recharge." Is this common elsewhere in the world? In the US, it Seems like 10 or 15 days is the norm, and maybe 20 after 5 years. What do the FAANG+ companies offer? Does the 2 months of vacation also contribute to that disconnected feeling, I wonder?

in Germany, you are entitled to 20 days paid leave anually by law, plus most companies throw another 5 to 10 days.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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> Openly acknowledging that there can be serious mental health issues related to remote work. People are not alone in these struggles, and there’s nothing “wrong” with feeling anxious or depressed. > Encouraging people to use sick days for mental health when they need them. It's nice that a company actually cares, but I feel there's a way to push this too far... Like not everything is a "mental health issue". You fee…

>a victim mentality of helplessness and doom

This isn't what accepting that you have mental health issues look like. This is what happens when you don't have support to handle your mental health in helpful ways.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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Article conflates digital nomadism with remote working in general. Remote work allows you to work from a space you control, eliminate commute and allows you to be able to walk around to clear your head without feeling guilty for not being in your seat. You could use it to travel, but I figure that would be a harder lifestyle and is not synonymous with “remote work”. The author did try working from home but the damage…

> Article conflates digital nomadism with remote working in general.

Only a small part in the beginning of the article is concerned with digital nomadism. Most of the article is about working from home, and the general effects of isolation.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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As others have said, in this thread, there are a lot of mixed issues in this article.

Living a nomad/traveling lifestyle =! remote work. Loads of people remote-work from home, but change nothing else in their lifestyle.

I've been working remotely my entire life. 30+ years now. One thing that is key, is looking at the blue sky. Being outside occasionally.

You will note that the article talks about work/life balance, about working a lot, working long hours. And after months and months, become more and more depressed.

What I suspect is happening is, winter! Shorter days! With shorter days, it is harder and harder to find sunlight when you just happen to wander outside. In the summer, at least where I am, daylight lives from 4am to 10pm. I doesn't matter when I wake up, or when I go to sleep.. if I wander out just once, there's almost always light.

Further, there's a much better chance of good weather. In the winter, if it isn't night, it's often cloudy, and therefore darker.

Unless you work away from all windows, this affects the type of light, even when working inside.

On top of all that, in the winter it is more often unpleasant. You think with glee, it's cool/cold, raining/snowing, and I work remote! I don't have to go out into that! Yet, this is a trap, for going out in that is key to your health... just for the light!

My point in all of the above is -- when you work on site, you have to go outside, and transit outside, to and from work. This gets in that vital light, even often in the winter.

It's about the light, it's about blue light from a blue sky, it's about being outside.

That's what 30+ years of remote work has taught me.

Re: Isolation, anxiety, and depression in the remote workplace

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I am a fully remote worker nowhere near my "office", which is simply where our company is technically HQd. I have never met my boss or any of my coworkers in person. I do highly technical work, on a team that only hires very senior developers who have prior remote work experience. And I can say, it is NOT for everyone. If you do not have a life out of work, if you live alone, if you do not have a good network of real…

Seems like all your problems can get solved by getting married to someone you love.
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