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Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#41

>which puts music fans at risk of being unjustly detained, harassed, judged, or even deported. Lost me at deported. Why is this hypothetical music fan in this country illegally? And why is it so important to allow him to stay?

In many places you can be arrested and/or deported for saying the wrong thing, being seen at the wrong place.

Basically you are arguing that cultural organizations should support the police state.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#42

>which puts music fans at risk of being unjustly detained, harassed, judged, or even deported. Lost me at deported. Why is this hypothetical music fan in this country illegally? And why is it so important to allow him to stay?

In many places you can be arrested and/or deported for saying the wrong thing, being seen at the wrong place. Basically you are arguing that cultural organizations should support the police state.

Who cares about this strawman "many places". We're talking about the US. Again: Why is it important to allow this illegal alien to stay in the country?

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I live, work permits are so easy (or automatic through the virtue of being in Schengen area) to get that illegal immigration basically does not exist, so the whole idea is vague at best to me.

If you are in Europe, how can you not be aware of undocumented refugees from North Africa and Syria? What you are saying is completely delusional.

And how would those be identified by a facial recognition system? I don't see your point here.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#44
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Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

It should be a human right to exist at a public place/event anywhere on Earth, regardless of which country you were born in.

Where do you live, Neverland?

Of course it should be a human right to freely travel, in a political utopia. Guess where we don't live? We don't live somewhere called no place.

If wishes (moral and otherwise) were horses, we'd drown in horse shit.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many places you can be arrested and/or deported for saying the wrong thing, being seen at the wrong place. Basically you are arguing that cultural organizations should support the police state.

Who cares about this strawman "many places". We're talking about the US. Again: Why is it important to allow this illegal alien to stay in the country?

Why is it so important for you to kick them out?

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I live, work permits are so easy (or automatic through the virtue of being in Schengen area) to get that illegal immigration basically does not exist, so the whole idea is vague at best to me.

If you are in Europe, how can you not be aware of undocumented refugees from North Africa and Syria? What you are saying is completely delusional.

Where in Europe are you talking about? The majority of immigrants in any EU country come from other EU countries. Of the remainder, less than 10% arrived as refugees. The vast majority of refugees (over 90% I’d guess) are documented and those from Syria or North Africa constitute only a fraction of all refugees.

The average European is highly highly unlikely to have ever encountered an undocumented refugee from Syria or North Africa.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#47
post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

On the topic of deportation, has anyone seen anyone arrested for deportation at a music festival? Do we have any data that this is actually happening? I'm a crime analyst in Chicago and I can't imagine officers doing event management would ever spend time on nonviolent undocumented residents.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#48

The ban is not going to happen. It's an issue of public safety and venue liability. FR use at video game conferences is a must, because every one has a series of morons threatening the venue, the conference, and the host. It is very difficult today to host any type of public event without multiple individuals taking their displeasure to extreme levels and making threats they might carry out. For such reasons, FR is b…

Oh great, another shill. We've been holding public events without FR for literally hundreds of thousands of years. Implying FR is needed in any way is not a position taken by an objective individual.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#49
post #37

Trying to ban FR seems to be a solving the privacy problem in the wrong way. Instead of banning FR, what should be fixed is the misidentification problem or the issue that come out when the FR become public.

This problem needs to be tackled from several angles, I think. Omnipresent cameras, linked to FR systems, are just as big a problem as misidentification.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#50

The ban is not going to happen. It's an issue of public safety and venue liability. FR use at video game conferences is a must, because every one has a series of morons threatening the venue, the conference, and the host. It is very difficult today to host any type of public event without multiple individuals taking their displeasure to extreme levels and making threats they might carry out. For such reasons, FR is b…

Yes the ban will happen. You work for the damn FR industry, get out of here with your fear tactics.

And working in the industry, one is given access to the threats and the level of concern the hosts have for their attendees. This article may as well as be a bunch of MAGA people, because you're all acting like an irrational mob.

BTW, this web site is nothing but a fear farm. The defining image has text right at the top "Could lead to..." which is just fanning fear.

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