Adolescents are natural night owls. It's probably in our genetics.
Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
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#12Lack of sleep was definitely the cause of my terrible grades in highschool mathematics. I would stay up late (1-2 am) to play in starcraft tournaments, to have 8 am classes in mathematics. (There's a neat inverse correlation between my highschool grades and starcraft rank) It's crazy to me just how terrible school systems are at optimizing for learning. I would get terrible headaches from classrooms that had too many…
> We wake up students too early Based on what you just said, if we moved school to 10am, you would just stay up until 4am playing StarCraft. I don't think school is too early. I think you just stayed up too late.
Poor logic. We sleep eventually.
Re: Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
#13Everyone, not just kids. Go the fuck to bed. In my experience, it's the same parents that struggle to make it to 930 standups that also let their kids stay up too late.
Re: Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
#14Lack of sleep was definitely the cause of my terrible grades in highschool mathematics. I would stay up late (1-2 am) to play in starcraft tournaments, to have 8 am classes in mathematics. (There's a neat inverse correlation between my highschool grades and starcraft rank) It's crazy to me just how terrible school systems are at optimizing for learning. I would get terrible headaches from classrooms that had too many…
> We wake up students too early Based on what you just said, if we moved school to 10am, you would just stay up until 4am playing StarCraft. I don't think school is too early. I think you just stayed up too late.
This is going back a fair few years for me, but I always thought school was too early! Perhaps you just didn't stay in bed for long enough? If you just wake up later, your bedtime will naturally end up later to compensate.
Re: Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
#15Lack of sleep was definitely the cause of my terrible grades in highschool mathematics. I would stay up late (1-2 am) to play in starcraft tournaments, to have 8 am classes in mathematics. (There's a neat inverse correlation between my highschool grades and starcraft rank) It's crazy to me just how terrible school systems are at optimizing for learning. I would get terrible headaches from classrooms that had too many…
> We wake up students too early Based on what you just said, if we moved school to 10am, you would just stay up until 4am playing StarCraft. I don't think school is too early. I think you just stayed up too late.
I don't think this is true. When I was younger, I only could fall asleep at ~2am. I went to multiple schools with starting times varying from 5am to 12pm, it never made a difference.
I just wasn't tired until 2am no matter what.
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#16Everyone, not just kids. Go the fuck to bed. In my experience, it's the same parents that struggle to make it to 930 standups that also let their kids stay up too late.
There’s no reason a standup needs to be at 930 other than to punish people with later natural sleep cycles.
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#17It’s because they stay up late in bed reading stories on Hacker News on their cell phones. Or maybe it’s just me.
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#18Everyone, not just kids. Go the fuck to bed. In my experience, it's the same parents that struggle to make it to 930 standups that also let their kids stay up too late.
Reschedule the standup to “never.” You’ll have an easier time getting those folks to show up.
Re: Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We wake up students too early Based on what you just said, if we moved school to 10am, you would just stay up until 4am playing StarCraft. I don't think school is too early. I think you just stayed up too late.
By that logic, if we moved school to 5 am, he would have simply only stayed up until 10 pm. Is that particularly realistic?
>By that logic, if we moved school to 5 am, he would have simply only stayed up until 10 pm.
I believe that.
>Is that particularly realistic?
The only issue is that at 5am, there won't be daylight during the winter. Lack of daylight presents safety issues and makes it more difficult to wake up.
Re: Around 30 percent of children in the U.S. don't get enough sleep: study
#20Lack of sleep was definitely the cause of my terrible grades in highschool mathematics. I would stay up late (1-2 am) to play in starcraft tournaments, to have 8 am classes in mathematics. (There's a neat inverse correlation between my highschool grades and starcraft rank) It's crazy to me just how terrible school systems are at optimizing for learning. I would get terrible headaches from classrooms that had too many…
in reality it was from co2 ppm