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Climate Change Will Cost Us Even More Than We Think

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Re: Climate Change Will Cost Us Even More Than We Think

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Post by tito »

moosey wrote: post #15
tito wrote: post #4

Climate change will create the first trillionaire. Find every machine that eats fossil fuels and electrify it. Find every crop that requires stable land and predictable weather and farm it in a shipping container. Find every underlying infrastructure that requires decades to pay off and decentralize it. Instead of water line pipes, pull water out of the air. Instead of fiber optic cables make LEO satellites. Instead…

I, on the other hand, believe that fighting climate change will be a great wealth equalizer. The development of cheap energy in the form of wind and solar power, and also the need for centralization in the fight against climate change (which will require an increase in taxes against those with money: the rich) will eliminate many current power structures in our current economic system, and will make many aspects of t…

Nice, I like the part about equalizing! Fast travel, cheap energy, exotic food for all.

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Post by merpnderp »

sunseb wrote: post #31

A carbon tax is just massive scam built around this fear of global warning.

No, the tax makes sense, buying and selling carbon offsets is the scam. We tried it before and it made people alike Al Gore billionaires, but was definitely a huge scam and resulting in nothing but the public getting fleeced and did jack and shite to reduce CO2.

Re: Climate Change Will Cost Us Even More Than We Think

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Post by Udik »

iikoolpp wrote: post #25

Opened the article expecting it to be a more abstract cost. Turns out it's about economics. Christ alive. "Yeah, billions are gonna die, but what really matters is my house prices are gonna go down."

Who said that billions are gonna die?

Frankly, if the solution to climate change will slow economic growth, I think that the highest human cost will come from the lack of growth. To put it in clear terms: lack of growth means that a sewage system, or a hospital, don't get built. This _will_ cause victims.

Re: Climate Change Will Cost Us Even More Than We Think

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Post by hcarvalhoalves »

zzot wrote: post #20

Dropping in here just to say: if this got you worried, come work with us over at http://climateaction.tech/ We are a global community of tech professionals using our skills, expertise and platforms to support solutions to the climate crisis.

Looks interesting but what are you actually doing (projects)? I couldn’t find in your site.

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Post by maxerickson »

tito wrote: post #13

I'm fascinated by this graph of the growth of solar as compared to International Agency Predictions. Year after year, the IEA massively underestimated the growth of solar. Last year, at a workshop with the World Bank I heard an expert in energy investments say "even just 5 years ago none of us ever thought the price of solar could go this low this fast". GRAPH: https://steinbuch.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/iea-vs-rea…

That melt isn't as unprecedented as the Forbes blagger makes it out to be. Follow the chain and you find out that it is reasonably comparable to one that happened in…2012:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/08/01/greenland-...

If it ends up part of even a 2 year pattern, that's already concerning, I'm not dismissing the issue, I'm just slagging Forbes links.

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Post by phkahler »

chris_va wrote: post #23

(disclaimer: I work in a Climate&Energy research group) I just want to remind everyone that there are solutions to climate change. We know how to produce clean energy and sequester CO2. The current free market does not make those solutions profitable for investors, though, and we will have to change that. Solving climate change can be as simple as getting a carbon price adopted. It needs to ramp up over time, allow a…

>> Solving climate change can be as simple as getting a carbon price adopted. It needs to ramp up over time, allow a secondary market for offsets

The simple solution to this big global catastrophe is my favorite money making scam. Here, just create this market for carbon credits. It makes my guys money while doing Jack shit.

Seriously, if you think CO2 is the problem, the solution is to simply tax those that either take it out of the ground or import it. Any other solution is political.

Not saying I agree with the premise, but if you do, that's the solution.

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Post by adjkant »

sunseb wrote: post #33
danso wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange. You seem to have posted a doctored image. The fact that your "1977" image uses modern typography should have been an obvious giveaway to you before you posted it. https://apnews.com/afs:Content:5755221200 > AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The Time cover labeled in social posts as coming from 1977 is actually a cover from 2007, with the image altered to change the title from “The Global Warming Survival Guide” to “Ho…

Thanks! I didn't know what! What about the 1979 image?

Is there any reason you're relying on others to do a basic google for you?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-global-co...

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