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Microsoft Wins Pentagon’s $10B Contract

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Post by dragonelite »

wolco wrote: post #385
Rainymood wrote: post #338

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Only after their employees revolted. Never forget this. Only after the employees spoke up.

What do we make of the remaining bidders? aws.. the employees would be fired if they revolted. Microsoft the employees didn't care to revolt. The fact that google employees could revolt and change a big decision says something. Tons of stories on why google is evil and microsoft and amazon are the toast of the town. I would rather have google in that position vs amazon/microsoft/oracle because there is a soul and hea…

Didn't Microsoft employees revolt when Microsoft was making some special Hololens devices for the US army?

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Post by jburwell »

darktimesahead wrote: post #111
z3t4 wrote: post #48

What do the military need 10 billion US dollars in cloud computing for ? Are they going to fork Bitcoin? DDOS attack? If they are for example going to archive video footage, it's probably much cheaper to print it to film.

Real-time surveillance of the world. Who said what when where to whom. Was that a threat. What were the consequences. Feeds for video, sound, https streams from billions of Internet devices. ML to extract salient features, at multiple levels of resolution. $10B is a drop in the bucket. This is heading into trillions territory. I wouldn't be surprised that in 10 years half the Pentagon budget will be spent on the clou…

The intelligence community (IC) [1] is not part of the JEDI contract [2]. While many IC components are part of DoD, the IC spans a wider swath of government (e.g. parts are distributed across DOJ, DOE, Homeland Security, State, etc). In addition to different mission sets, they are also governed under a different set of laws. Therefore, DoD (like DOJ, DOE, Homeland, etc) systems connect to IC systems to share information, but there are distinct infrastructures whereby neither has full visibility into the other.

[1]: https://www.intelligence.gov/ [2]: https://www.fedscoop.com/cia-confirms-multi-cloud-procuremen...

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Post by ethbro »

dwoozle wrote: post #258
philsnow wrote: post #176

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This show felt like so many other shows on American TV in the last decade: somebody had the core of a good idea, but the writers had no idea how to turn that into a show. The first couple episodes of Jericho were tantalizing. The interesting part was the world and the geopolitical situation, but then so little about that actually changed over the course of the following episodes, it was just a bunch of small town pol…

This phenomenon arises from the way that TV shows are produced. The creators write ~6 episodes to showcase the concept and the funding/production decision is made based on these 6 episodes. So the shows are engineered for maximum drama during these 6 episodes, and the rest of the show’s run is trying to maintain a 100 meter sprint pace for sometimes up to 10 years. This is particularly bad for “conspiracy” type shows…

Out of all the shows in this vein that I've seen, Person of Interest was the only one that managed to maintain its pacing.

The key seems to be recognizing the season-long and multi-season arcs, making them both satisfying, but never getting to an "Oh, what do we do next?" point.

Well, it and of course Babylon 5.

And maybe Lost. I know it gets nerd hate, but I respect it from a show-running perspective.

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Post by slenk »

p0rkbelly wrote: post #399
slenk wrote: post #264

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I meant for things like audit logs based on your account for every single thing you do.

That’s still different? AWS has CloudTrail that lots all actions

Having used O365 + Azure as an administrator, I have found it is much easier to use Azure to trace security events than AWS.

They also have the capability to detect massive file copies/deletions for special locations, etc (i forgot the technical term)

I love AWS, but I have seen some benefits with integrating O365 and Azure.

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Post by bilbo0s »

jburwell wrote: post #409
bilbo0s wrote: post #401

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The CIA is not politics though. Politics require highlighting. You'd be surprised how little the CIA highlights of what it's doing, and what that costs. Contrasted against the military, which tends to highlight almost everything of what it's doing, and what that costs. And 10 billion over 10 years is what? Maybe 3 to 5% of Amazon's yearly revenue? You really want to be at the epicenter of the shitstorm that will happ…

You must contend with politics working for USG at any level for any department/agency. There are plenty of very nasty, bitter politics within each of the intelligence agencies, as well as, across the larger intelligence community (IC). These are massive organizations with very large budgets. Because these battles occur in classified settings, they are not visible to the public. I highly doubt that AWS hasn't had to c…

But they don't care about any political battle invisible to the market.

That's the point.

It's the shitstorms that generate the tweetstorms that impact their larger bottom line.

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Post by m0zg »

ChrisLTD wrote: post #260
m0zg wrote: post #151

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>> He's not anti war One of his main campaign promises was that he would withdraw from all the ill-conceived multi-trillion dollar wars in the Middle East. And unlike Obama he's actually keeping his promises. Give credit where credit is due. Even if it is due to Trump.

Where have we withdrawn from?

Last I checked we're no longer droning people directly in Yemen Obama-style (although Saudis are, and we're helping them), we've defeated ISIS and are in the process of withdrawing from Syria, there's troop withdrawal (although still incomplete due to Taliban stirring shit in September) from Afghanistan. Importantly, we haven't started any new wars on Trump's watch. Obama started several. So did Bush. Clinton before him started one. So did Bush senior before Clinton.

That's as good a peace record as you'll find in a US president in the last 100 years.

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Post by m0zg »

Discombulator wrote: post #343
m0zg wrote: post #230

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There's no such thing as "corruption free" country. The US is very, very far from corruption-free, both in the government and outside it. It's less corrupt than, say, Zimbabwe, but that's not saying much. Basically one has to ask themselves a question: given that the mainstream press is wildly unprofitable (with very few exceptions), might there be a reason why its owners sinks hundreds of millions of dollars into ke…

In my reading, your post implies that everyone is exclusively motivated by short term self interest. I do not think this is true, neither for myself nor for others, and I suspect you do not either for yourself and people you know. The problem in general with negative fatalistic views like this one is that it is non falsifiable: there is not a single positive / selfless action to which you could not ascribe base motiv…

That's the problem with assuming you can read people's minds, which seems quite frequent nowadays. The key "tell" for this is saying: "so what you're saying is" followed by the opposite of what the person is really saying.

No, your reading is incorrect.

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