A carbon tax is just massive scam built around this fear of global warning.
Climate Change Will Cost Us Even More Than We Think
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#32Climate change will create the first trillionaire. Find every machine that eats fossil fuels and electrify it. Find every crop that requires stable land and predictable weather and farm it in a shipping container. Find every underlying infrastructure that requires decades to pay off and decentralize it. Instead of water line pipes, pull water out of the air. Instead of fiber optic cables make LEO satellites. Instead…
> Climate change will create the first trillionaire.
Zimbabwe style.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwH4nTUcAE-Q7e.jpg
Strange. You seem to have posted a doctored image. The fact that your "1977" image uses modern typography should have been an obvious giveaway to you before you posted it. https://apnews.com/afs:Content:5755221200 > AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The Time cover labeled in social posts as coming from 1977 is actually a cover from 2007, with the image altered to change the title from “The Global Warming Survival Guide” to “Ho…
Thanks! I didn't know what! What about the 1979 image?
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#34Without criticizing the article at all, I want to point out that headlines like this go viral and make money, while the opposite ones would go nowhere.
In other words, the news you see is selected by virality, not by how well they describe the real world.
I have no cure or even complaint for this. I just think it's a very important thing to keep in mind.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Greenland's massive ice melt wasn't supposed to happen until 2070. It seems even the scientific predictions can be too conservative. The changing climate isn't a linear system, it's more like a step function. Once the ice melts it's much harder to get back. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottsnowden/2019/08/16/greenla...
It is interesting to note that just about 1000 years ago the Vikings were growing barley in Greenland [0]. > “Now we can see that the Vikings could grow corn, and this was very important for their nourishment and survival,” Barley seems to do ok in late Spring conditions in the NE United States [1]. I'm not certain you could grow barley or corn in Tundra conditions. I bring this up when people mention warming global…
It was a well-known and understood roughly 300-year localized warmer period[1] in Western Europe and the North Atlantic. The planet has been globally warmer than what it is now but that was long before H. sapiens and has nothing to do with the Vikings or barley.
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#36Climate change will create the first trillionaire. Find every machine that eats fossil fuels and electrify it. Find every crop that requires stable land and predictable weather and farm it in a shipping container. Find every underlying infrastructure that requires decades to pay off and decentralize it. Instead of water line pipes, pull water out of the air. Instead of fiber optic cables make LEO satellites. Instead…
> Climate change will create the first trillionaire. Or it will break down every aspect of our current society until it is unrecognizable. Your "technology will save us" attitude isn't a plan, it's more of a prayer.
Yes, that future society will be unrecognizable in many ways. Today, my lifestyle emits over 30 tons of carbon dioxide per year. That's the weight of almost 30 cars every year.
Any society that manages to do away with that will be completely different than today's.
Unrecognizable, here we come!
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#37(disclaimer: I work in a Climate&Energy research group) I just want to remind everyone that there are solutions to climate change. We know how to produce clean energy and sequester CO2. The current free market does not make those solutions profitable for investors, though, and we will have to change that. Solving climate change can be as simple as getting a carbon price adopted. It needs to ramp up over time, allow a…
I'm asking out of ignorance. You're using the word "solutions". Do we know those are really "solutions", and not guesses for solutions? Like, will those actions reduce temperatures? It seems that some of what already happened, like melting of icebergs, is not easy to be revert.
It's all trial and error and models that are not proved empirically.
I'm pretty sure we do not know what those interventions will do and what their impact will eventually be.
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#38(disclaimer: I work in a Climate&Energy research group) I just want to remind everyone that there are solutions to climate change. We know how to produce clean energy and sequester CO2. The current free market does not make those solutions profitable for investors, though, and we will have to change that. Solving climate change can be as simple as getting a carbon price adopted. It needs to ramp up over time, allow a…
I'm asking out of ignorance. You're using the word "solutions". Do we know those are really "solutions", and not guesses for solutions? Like, will those actions reduce temperatures? It seems that some of what already happened, like melting of icebergs, is not easy to be revert.
The line between a "solution" and a "mitigation" is not sharply drawn. As mitigations become more and more effective they eventually become solutions. There's no point quibbling over terminology.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you support this opinion?
Nope. I'd love to be proven wrong.
I'm baffled. You "expect" something that you say you have no reason to expect, and you hope this expectation is wrong. Is this some new meaning of "expect" that I'm not familiar with? Or do you follow a psychological strategy of expecting bad things so that you'll always be pleasantly surprised?
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#40I still think many models are missing volcanic winters. We know they have crazy cooling effects, but they are something we don’t yet control.
More $$$ money needs to go into Vulcanering. Crazy, but if we can make ash spread 20% more that’s years of cooling.