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Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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Re: Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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> The new urbanisation guidelines encourage mixed-use development and recommend that all residents should have improved access to a diverse range of public and commercial amenities – schools, supermarkets, retirement centers, hospitals, parks, and cultural centers – within range of where they live. There is a special emphasis on green space: the guidelines decree that all city dwellers should have access to public parks, gardens, and other open areas.

If they can pull this off – awesome.

Re: Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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I guess we will see more skyscrapers then since more density is required.

The trick with density is all about making those skyscrapers occupied.

The giant vacant housing inventories have not gone down much over the years. Cheap housing sells well, but giant mansion apartments that got trendy at around 2012-2015 are really unsellable, and there were really a lot of them built in urban centres.

Believe me or not, Shanghai has few places with 10 years old "brand new" apartments.

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I guess we will see more skyscrapers then since more density is required.

Well, they are more efficient and free up space so you could have green spaces around them.

See a bit what Le Corbusier was doing with its "Unité d'habitation": A large building that also included amenities and a park around it.

Edit in response to Barry below: Whatever Le Corbusier's faults, "Unité d'habitation" [1] was indeed designed to be pleasant and liveable, and including a school (originally) and a floor for shops and amenities.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_d'habitation

Re: Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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> The new urbanisation guidelines encourage mixed-use development and recommend that all residents should have improved access to a diverse range of public and commercial amenities – schools, supermarkets, retirement centers, hospitals, parks, and cultural centers – within range of where they live. There is a special emphasis on green space: the guidelines decree that all city dwellers should have access to public pa…

They have already tried to do that for years. Many housing developments consist of tower blocks surrounded by a garden, with the ground floors used for convenience stores, hair dressers, etc.

Re: Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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I guess we will see more skyscrapers then since more density is required.

Well, they are more efficient and free up space so you could have green spaces around them. See a bit what Le Corbusier was doing with its "Unité d'habitation": A large building that also included amenities and a park around it. Edit in response to Barry below: Whatever Le Corbusier's faults, "Unité d'habitation" [1] was indeed designed to be pleasant and liveable, and including a school (originally) and a floor for…

Examples of this working in practice would be appreciated. Le Corbusier’s name is mud among urban designers because he focused on how things would look in scale model or from an airplane, not on whether it made for a pleasant or livable environment. Architects love him obviously, but like Frank Lloyd Wright his individual residential buildings are surprisingly affordable because they’re great to look at rather than to live in.

Le Corbusier’s ideal city was something like Brasilia, which he designed. Hostile to pedestrians, made for motorists, with no mixed use spaces anywhere, with residential, commercial and industrial spaces completely separated.

Re: Recommendations from the first meeting of China’s urban policy unit in 38 years

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I guess we will see more skyscrapers then since more density is required.

Chinese residential city blocks aren’t any denser than American ones, they do have more green space though. Paris is one of the densest cities in the world and it doesn’t really get taller than eight stories high.

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I guess we will see more skyscrapers then since more density is required.

The trick with density is all about making those skyscrapers occupied. The giant vacant housing inventories have not gone down much over the years. Cheap housing sells well, but giant mansion apartments that got trendy at around 2012-2015 are really unsellable, and there were really a lot of them built in urban centres. Believe me or not, Shanghai has few places with 10 years old "brand new" apartments.

Whatever about other parts of China I do not believe there are 10 year old developments in Shanghai with brand new apartments unless you mean people who are holding unfinished concrete shells as investments and there are some of those in central, lived in developments.

Getting any place within ten minutes taxi ride of a metro occupied is easy. Might be hard to sell it but you can rent it easy.

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