Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

MrOxiMoron wrote: post #3

IIAOPSW wrote: post #2

Instead of mobile phones, they should just switch over to IP via Avian Carrier.

That's a problem when your research subject eats the carriers for breakfast ;-)

Eagle IP simply encapsulates Pigeon IP like TCP over a VPN.

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by ummwhat » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 8:28 AM UTC

MrOxiMoron wrote: post #3

IIAOPSW wrote: post #2

Instead of mobile phones, they should just switch over to IP via Avian Carrier.

That's a problem when your research subject eats the carriers for breakfast ;-)

Literally taken from the wiki page on IPoAC

https://i.imgur.com/DUH5Kre.png

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by buboard » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 8:34 AM UTC

I d never guess they were so cosmopolitan

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by pvaldes » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 8:37 AM UTC

A solution could be to design the system to make calls directly to a list of ornitologists or ornitologist societies in the other countries, that shouldn't be really complicated to arrange and then ask them to return the data by standard e-mail. Is a small world.

Or store the eagles travel data in a cloud, that feels also poetically appropriate for this case

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by 0b0001 » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 8:44 AM UTC

pvaldes wrote: post #7

A solution could be to design the system to make calls directly to a list of ornitologists or ornitologist societies in the other countries, that shouldn't be really complicated to arrange and then ask them to return the data by standard e-mail. Is a small world. Or store the eagles travel data in a cloud, that feels also poetically appropriate for this case

I'm sure it's somewhat hard to change the system once deployed. They could just get a cheap global tariff -- but the eagles won't swap SIM cards themselves.

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by Symbiote » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 9:19 AM UTC

0b0001 wrote: post #8

pvaldes wrote: post #7

A solution could be to design the system to make calls directly to a list of ornitologists or ornitologist societies in the other countries, that shouldn't be really complicated to arrange and then ask them to return the data by standard e-mail. Is a small world. Or store the eagles travel data in a cloud, that feels also poetically appropriate for this case

I'm sure it's somewhat hard to change the system once deployed. They could just get a cheap global tariff -- but the eagles won't swap SIM cards themselves.

As it says in the article, they are now on a different tariff.

There are special tariffs for this type of usage.

Re: Migrating Russian eagles run up data roaming charges

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Post by andreareina » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 9:28 AM UTC

ummwhat wrote: post #5

MrOxiMoron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a problem when your research subject eats the carriers for breakfast ;-)

Literally taken from the wiki page on IPoAC https://i.imgur.com/DUH5Kre.png

Not just the wiki page, it's straight from the rfc[1]:

> Unintentional encapsulation in hawks has been known to occur, with decapsulation being messy and the packets mangled.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549