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Can you give some examples?
The Chaos Computer Club scene in Germany, The Warsaw Hackerspace, NYC Resistor, Helsinki Hacklab, ... All of them are community supported, non-profit and doing some fairly advanced stuff in some domain areas (security, electronics, machining, ...).
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#132Maybe because I grew up in a different background (80s and 90s in Japan), but I always found the "Hacker" culture bizarre. What's with their "underground" theme, after all? Black backgrounds and skull figures and that kind of stuff. Their attitude is pretty much the same as the locker-room culture, which isn't cool either. Gangs and pirates (and ninjas and yakuzas for that matter) were never considered "cool" among t…
This influence can clearly be seen in the startup scene, at least in earlier days: jock/locker-room culture, rebellious and "disruptive", seeing a company as a gang of pirates.. It's very American - as one of them myself, I love this attitude in some ways, but, having lived in a few other cultures, I also understand that it has aspects of teenagers' mentality and behavior.
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#133There was a time when "hacker" meant "a wizard's wizard"; and a time where it meant a digital vandal over POTS lines; and a time where reclaiming the word "hacker" became fashionable; and important computer hackers began quietly wearing the word; and then there was the time where marketers became growth hackers and musicians became harmony hackers. But the digital vandals never fully wrested away the word from AI lab…
The history of hacker culture is not as simple as the "hacker" vs "cracker". The hacker culture has two distinct branches: the academic insiders, and the social outliers, those two have significant different culture. Both of them can be described as the hacking culture, it was just than the access to computers were very limited at the time. The insiders were those who was privileged to work inside institutions - they…
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We were more innocent at that time. I miss that.
Not really. If I recall correctly, hackers like Phiber Optik and Acid Phreak were thinking Barlow was a corporate spy/shill. And in response published Barlow's credit record.
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#135>> Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Here's a thought. A smart person realises that everyone around them thinks they're smarter than everyone else around them, and that everyone can't be right at the same time, which must mean that most are wrong. Which in turn means that, to be the one person who is right to think they're smarter t…
This is probably better than getting a pass to completely ignore social consensus and becoming a supervillain, but the crab bucket doesn't need to be repeated on HN.
Monkeysphere dynamics play out exceptionally hard when it comes to computer security, because a single kid can easily end up putting egg on the face of a tie-wearing cert-touting "CIO".
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The Chaos Computer Club scene in Germany, The Warsaw Hackerspace, NYC Resistor, Helsinki Hacklab, ... All of them are community supported, non-profit and doing some fairly advanced stuff in some domain areas (security, electronics, machining, ...).
Do you an opinion on the London Hackspace?
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It's funny how the hacker says, "Cool" and the reader said, "Cool? It's not cool. It's commie bullshit." Honest question: Which one is correct?
that's not a hacker but also an agent. and a bit of trivia - person who plays him is Marc Anthony (musician, ex-husband of Jennifer Lopez)
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I wouldn't say 'lifted'. They were straight reading manifesto itself, not pretending that it's something else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwozkbmjzC4
It's funny how the hacker says, "Cool" and the reader said, "Cool? It's not cool. It's commie bullshit." Honest question: Which one is correct?
> If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me...
> My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
These quotes are too individualistic to be "commie".
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#139>> Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Here's a thought. A smart person realises that everyone around them thinks they're smarter than everyone else around them, and that everyone can't be right at the same time, which must mean that most are wrong. Which in turn means that, to be the one person who is right to think they're smarter t…
Not sure what your school experience was like, but for me it wasn't a bunch of equally intelligent students all thinking themselves above average. I'm happy to be in a career now where I feel surrounded by people who make me feel stupid; back then, it was very different. In high school, I never got less than an A with minimal effort, while everyone around me struggled. I don't say that to brag--I was just a big fish…
I mean in all seriousness, it was not learning nor existing without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias why "they called us criminals".
That claim is manipulative at best.
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#140Maybe because I grew up in a different background (80s and 90s in Japan), but I always found the "Hacker" culture bizarre. What's with their "underground" theme, after all? Black backgrounds and skull figures and that kind of stuff. Their attitude is pretty much the same as the locker-room culture, which isn't cool either. Gangs and pirates (and ninjas and yakuzas for that matter) were never considered "cool" among t…
Just out of curiosity, what was considered cool?