Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online? • Hacker News Board

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by sysashi » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:24 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

You clearly visited that site, have you given your IP address to the FBI?

why a throwaway account btw? I would really want to know you so I avoid anything you ever build.

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by hluska » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:33 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #19

throwaway8491 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you violate your users' privacy just because of the network they are using? Many activists use sites listed here, including ProtonMail, Keybase, DuckDuckGo. If you're so happy to help USA law enforcement without a subpoena it's a very good thing you didn't build Facebook or Twitter.

Because the people who built Facebook or Twitter don’t do that, right? Let’s be serious.

I'm not trying to be a dick and you're obviously free to do what you wish (in case you wonder, I have not downvoted you). But this attitude has absolutely ruined the web. Despite all the improvements in web technologies, browsers and even bandwidth, I have noticeably more difficulty consuming good information today. This is 100% because of lax attitudes to user privacy.

Please stop. :)

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by ratsmack » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:46 PM UTC

sysashi wrote: post #21

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

You clearly visited that site, have you given your IP address to the FBI? why a throwaway account btw? I would really want to know you so I avoid anything you ever build.

And you might note the username plays on the name of a known admin.

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by fatwashed » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 3:48 PM UTC

"Tor is the uncensored internet."

The connection is uncensored? Or the content you discover is uncensored?

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by spumoni » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

Sometimes this is the only place to go when enough corporate speech zones push out speech they don't like (gab, 8chan, stormfront)

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by jandrese » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:24 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

I know Zuckerburg is being grilled by Congress this week, but that's an overly harsh thing to say about facebook(corewwwi).

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by jascii » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:27 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

This service is also available through tor, so he/she wouldn't have the IP's to give to the FBI..

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by Gene_Parmesan » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:30 PM UTC

hluska wrote: post #22

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the people who built Facebook or Twitter don’t do that, right? Let’s be serious.

I'm not trying to be a dick and you're obviously free to do what you wish (in case you wonder, I have not downvoted you). But this attitude has absolutely ruined the web. Despite all the improvements in web technologies, browsers and even bandwidth, I have noticeably more difficulty consuming good information today. This is 100% because of lax attitudes to user privacy. Please stop. :)

A few months ago, I had someone tell me on the programming subreddit that, while they were very concerned about privacy and Google Chrome, they tried Firefox but went back to Chrome because (and I am not making this up) the font kerning in Firefox was slightly suboptimal in certain situations.

That's what we're fighting against. This was someone on a technical forum who understood the privacy issues at play. But they valued their own privacy so little that they were willing to trade it for slightly improved font kerning. In short, I worry that we're well and truly fucked.

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by hombre_fatal » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

dingdingdanggg wrote: post #16

Is an illegal* site online? If I built this service I’d just log all the IPs from the requests and just hand them to the FBI.

I don't know how someone technical could think the FBI cares about some random IP addresses visiting dark.fail. Do you also think the FBI uses their VB.NET GUI to cyberhack-backtrace this IP address list to arrest people for the pre-crime of looking for DDG's/BBC's .onion site?

Re: Dark.fail: Is a darknet site online?

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Post by Liquix » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

Whomever runs this site is doing a great service to the public. There's got to be a non-trivial amount of effort involved in manually verifying links and preventing the list itself from being compromised/DDoS'd. Kudos to you, dark.fail admin!