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Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Post by manifestsilence »

harshreality wrote: post #104
Angostura wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You appear to be confusing grammar and biology. Why shy away from the word 'sex' when discussing sex?

Honestly? Because sex is a borderline bad word in polite company, and can get you into trouble if someone misses context and thinks you're talking about sex sex, while gender isn't a problematic word. The United States is so damned puritan in its culture that it's risky to use words that have a normal context that's problematic. [For instance, someone could overhear it out of context and think you're being inappropri…

Well here's the thing: if you're talking about socially presented traits of a person, you're talking about gender.

If you're needing to use the word sex, it means you're talking about the difference in shape of a person's private parts. The word is exactly as socially acceptable as it seems to be.

If you're trying to compare a bunch of people in a room, like to say you should divide up teams by ___, you probably want gender, not sex. It's medical professionals who usually have cause to care about the sex of a person they know. Unless you're dating someone, and then it is sex sex you're talking about...

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Post by golemotron »

progval wrote: post #23
rpmisms wrote: post #3

Oh boy, research showing differences between biological genders. This is going to either be ignored or absolutely explode.

It's sociology and psychology research, not biology. Biological explanation in this article is speculation not backed by the study.

Brains are biological constructs.

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Post by moate »

aphextim wrote: post #38

Anecdotal, however I find that in my lifetime I was/am able to 'move on' and forget about things such as minor disagreements between partners where they (female partners) have tended to dwell on things longer than my male friends. Could have been the same if I had male partners I suppose, although that isn't my personal taste. Not just in relationships but even among co-workers I notice there is a lot more gossip bet…

>>The point of all of this, I feel is that to many people, the epiphany the article is making was quite obvious, although it is neat to see this quantified.

Weirdly that runs contrary to what the study found actually. They mention that during polling, people expected, on average, to find no difference between how heterosexual men and women would feel about their ex-partners.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Post by magduf »

avgDev wrote: post #103
aphextim wrote: post #38

Anecdotal, however I find that in my lifetime I was/am able to 'move on' and forget about things such as minor disagreements between partners where they (female partners) have tended to dwell on things longer than my male friends. Could have been the same if I had male partners I suppose, although that isn't my personal taste. Not just in relationships but even among co-workers I notice there is a lot more gossip bet…

My ex whom I dated for 5 years cheated on me towards the end of our relationship. It was hard initially, but now I don't have any negative feelings towards her. I accept that I wasn't perfect either. While, I don't want to make excuses for her, people do dumb things and make mistakes. I would never be with her again but I don't see a reason to still be upset about it.

Cheating towards the end of a relationship usually points to someone that was probably emotionally checked out of the relationship already. Basically, the cheating was just an effect of the relationship dying. So yeah, no point in being upset about it I think; the relationship was probably already doomed at that point. I think this happens a lot: someone really wants out of the relationship, but instead of just saying so, and initiating a break-up (because becoming single again is scary, after all), they take advantage of an opportunity to cheat and this ends up being the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

k__ wrote: post #107

I'm living mit multiple partners and they are also dating multiple people. Since they tell me about their dating experience, I got more insight of how other men behave to women, then when I lived monogamous. What I wanted to say is, after what I heared from my partners about men they dated, I totally understand these results.

>What I wanted to say is, after what I heared from my partners about men they dated, I totally understand these results.

Ex-partners are not exactly a reliable source of "the whole truth" even before we consider the content of the article.

Edit: current partners are probably not the best source either, ask your local marriage counselor if you don't believe me.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Post by zymhan »

im3w1l wrote: post #95
WhompingWindows wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the first paragraph you're asking for causal explanation. Then in the second paragraph you're dishing out a bunch of potential causal explanations as confounders. Some researchers would deem it over-reaching to dish out causal explanations willy nilly. Most of those questions should be relegated to follow-up studies or a BRIEF mention in the discussion section. It's perfectly okay science to simply observe a pheno…

If you don't have the causal explanations then you cannot generalize beyond the population you sampled. What does that mean? That the correct conclusion to draw is very narrow: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do [in Graz, Austria, in the year 2019]

Not every bit of research results in a simple conclusion. That doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Post by psv1 »

lwhi wrote: post #120
psv1 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes a lot of sense however, to separate people based on a criterion and find out how the resulting groups differ from each other.

I believe the criteria needs to be more nuanced that 'man' and 'woman' to be able to elicit anything valuable about society.

It's enough for the criterion to be real in order to be of interest. And this one is definitely real.

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Post by aphextim »

moate wrote: post #123
aphextim wrote: post #38

Anecdotal, however I find that in my lifetime I was/am able to 'move on' and forget about things such as minor disagreements between partners where they (female partners) have tended to dwell on things longer than my male friends. Could have been the same if I had male partners I suppose, although that isn't my personal taste. Not just in relationships but even among co-workers I notice there is a lot more gossip bet…

>>The point of all of this, I feel is that to many people, the epiphany the article is making was quite obvious, although it is neat to see this quantified. Weirdly that runs contrary to what the study found actually. They mention that during polling, people expected, on average, to find no difference between how heterosexual men and women would feel about their ex-partners.

I guess I'm reading this wrong.

>Two studies revealed that men are more likely than women to evaluate their former romantic partners more favorably. A third, larger study replicated this finding. All three studies yielded medium effect sizes (Cohen, 1988). A fourth study indicated that these findings are not intuitively obvious to most laypersons since only one in four laypeople (24%) anticipated these findings (and with most people predicting no gender difference).

>In closing, the present research documents a new phenomenon that seems far from obvious to most people. Women tend to have more negative attitudes toward their former romantic partners than men do. While our studies document this stable gender difference, we do not know its specific origins. Even though both evolutionary and gender role theories provide some valuable insights, additional research is needed to pin down the key origins. The use of longitudinal studies in which individuals are followed across time and relationships to determine how and why ex-partner views develop will be particularly helpful in this regard.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/19485506198766...

Re: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study

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Post by moate »

im3w1l wrote: post #95
WhompingWindows wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the first paragraph you're asking for causal explanation. Then in the second paragraph you're dishing out a bunch of potential causal explanations as confounders. Some researchers would deem it over-reaching to dish out causal explanations willy nilly. Most of those questions should be relegated to follow-up studies or a BRIEF mention in the discussion section. It's perfectly okay science to simply observe a pheno…

If you don't have the causal explanations then you cannot generalize beyond the population you sampled. What does that mean? That the correct conclusion to draw is very narrow: Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do [in Graz, Austria, in the year 2019]

>>Men [in their 20s] View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women[in their 20s] Do [in Graz, Austria, in the year 2019]

Fixed that for you. It's even more narrow in scope.

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