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Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by rickycook »

smcl wrote: post #36
jahbrewski wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite unintuitive iOS feature is “shake to undo”

Ha, yep I feel like an absolute idiot doing that in public. My genuinely favourite hidden/unintuitive feature is the force-touch on the on-screen keyboard to see a little cursor you can scroll around the text field you are using. I hate that it's so unintuitive, but it's incredibly useful

and i hate that they removed it in the latest generation! i know you can do the hold down on space instead, and i know that you can then tap with a second finger, but there’s so much more you could do much quicker with the force touch keyboard!

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Post by gjhr »

smcl wrote: post #36
jahbrewski wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite unintuitive iOS feature is “shake to undo”

Ha, yep I feel like an absolute idiot doing that in public. My genuinely favourite hidden/unintuitive feature is the force-touch on the on-screen keyboard to see a little cursor you can scroll around the text field you are using. I hate that it's so unintuitive, but it's incredibly useful

On many Android keyboards you can hold and drag on the space bar to do the same. You can also drag back on backspace to delete whole words/sentences. Similarly unintuitive though, I only know about it because I saw someone else mention it on the Internet.

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Post by salex89 »

Had the same issue the first time I was using Uber, around 1.5 year ago. Uber is not available in my region, and I was in the States, wanting to catch a ride with my colleagues to the airport, so that was my first time in the app. We were going long-haul and had a lot of luggage. First car that comes in is a Corolla in which there is no way we could fit. The guy (in poor English) tells us to choose a bigger car. We try to tap around, just to get a Jetta.

At the end we asked a guy in a shop near the spot we were waiting, for him just to swipe the ride type right to left. Felt like an idiot, because the three types available at were perfectly centered and aligned.

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by Y-bar »

theshrike79 wrote: post #35
jahbrewski wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite unintuitive iOS feature is “shake to undo”

Has anyone ever used that on purpose?

Yes, often, it is such an odd manoeuvre that it is hard to forget, like dragging an ejectable to the trash.

But I feel like I look stupid. And it does not always work.

There has to be a better way.

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by mfer »

Testing on older devices is something many (any it appears iOS) doesn't do well enough.

I ran into this with an apps verification system. Because of the positioning on an iPhone 7 you couldn't perform verification. When I contacted them I learned they don't test on iPhone 7's because they are too old. This was prior to the 11 coming out.

I've also had to help someone with this problem on their older device.

A casualty of always chasing new is design and QA for older devices.

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by Udo »

jarfil wrote: post #32
Udo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's debatable whether it's bad that the user knows where exactly they are. The problem with just showing a bar at the bottom is that iOS already uses a bar at the bottom to invoke the app switcher. Maybe a small triangle in the corner would help.

The user probably wants to know where they are in a list while scrolling, but otherwise it shouldn't be a problem to reclaim that screen space by hiding the scroll bar when they're done.

That reflects how things work on macOS and iOS right now, the scroll bar disappears when you stop scrolling. However, that does not apply to "pop-in" elements like the share pane. It operates like a slidable component on-top of the current app, it does not even have a scroll bar in theory, because from its point of view there is nothing to scroll. Whether that's a good choice to begin with is open to debate, but I assume Apple's design team would be averse to showing a positioning indicator due to the fact that it would break their skeuomorphism.

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Post by kup0 »

This issue confused me too, on my iPhone SE. The top action is copy and is partially cut off on the screen, and I didn't know save image was below it. At least it being cut off eventually led me to scroll down. Apple has destroyed UI intuitiveness by going too far in the minimalist direction. Sometimes we need some damn scrollbars or indicators.

However, it appears this changes based on the app? If I long press an image to save it from the browser or from the Toot! (mastodon) app, I get the regular save image dialog that I've always gotten on iOS.

If I long press an image to save it from Twitterific, I get the share sheet.

Ugh. The share sheet annoys me too. I get the convenience of having "most common" contacts at the top to send things to, but most of the time this is in the way for me and I'd prefer it completely off and as expected with Apple's "features" they rarely provide options to turn them off.

While I prefer iOS over Android, it's stuff like this that I realize is a big trade-off for me.

Edit: Looks like I can at least re-order so "Save Image" is the top option... but it's still buried beneath the contacts and apps

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by coldcode »

Our mainstream iOS app has tons of these kind of issues. Our designers seem more interested in coolness than usability. I think a lot of designers are big on artistry but low on understanding how to help people actually use things. I did UI design back in the 80's when it was actually a programmer duty more than an art thing. Of course back then were no phone sized screens and the UIs were much simpler in desktop apps. But the concept of making a UI usable for all sorts of people is still the same. Apple traditionally does not use user lab testing (which is not terrible in itself, often I've gotten mostly useless feedback when I watched them) but sometimes you work in an environment that has too many people who know the app too well to notice issues.

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by luckylion »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #11

Good callout of usability. Does it need to be presented so dramatically? "she couldn't figure out how to share photos, so I called her" Could this not wait until later?

I very much agree. Valid point, bad presentation. Embedding screenshots of dialogues and Twitter threads is something I'd really prefer not to get widespread.

Re: Perfectly Cropped

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Post by kup0 »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

I'm personally torn on the new share sheet. It's actually fast now, which is nice, and I like the fact that it (supposedly) can put contacts in the top bar that I talk to frequently (which I guess no app has added support for yet?) But it's still a bit confusing how it's organized, and now it has two planes of scrolling and sometimes apps disappear off of them unless I pin them in "Favorites" or something like that a…

I've seen the contacts in the top bar, though I can't remember what apps use them. Maybe the share option in Photos.

I find it annoying that I cannot turn it off. It's very easy to accidentally get close to sending a contact an image I do not want to send them

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