قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

Post by wongarsu » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:43 AM UTC

skummetmaelk wrote: post #259

pgeorgi wrote: post #120

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As discussed elsewhere in the thread, the few dozen keywords are a different matter (and are just memorized to mean "make the computer do ..."), but having useful error messages from your compiler helps get stuff sorted out more quickly. There are, to this day, people who get in trouble when their computers reply to them in English, including coding folks. I bet they were (and are) thankful for initiatives like yours…

Localized error messages are detrimental to solving the problem as googling the error message in a different language will prevent you from finding a solution in the main language.

Post by ward » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:47 AM UTC

317070 wrote: post #169

Scarblac wrote: post #96

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When I was 10, the Dutch language manual for the Commodore 64 explained the pronunciation of "input#", but not that of just "input". So I (unfamiliar with foreign languages) thought that "input" was pronounced as we would in Dutch, while "input#" sounded like what I now know is English. A class mate said his father said they were both pronounced as in English. We had a fight over this in the playground, and I beat hi…

My brain is parsing how a Dutch input would sound different in Dutch? "in de put" vs "input" sounds the same, no? What is different?

Post by Scarblac » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:49 AM UTC

317070 wrote: post #169

Scarblac wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was 10, the Dutch language manual for the Commodore 64 explained the pronunciation of "input#", but not that of just "input". So I (unfamiliar with foreign languages) thought that "input" was pronounced as we would in Dutch, while "input#" sounded like what I now know is English. A class mate said his father said they were both pronounced as in English. We had a fight over this in the playground, and I beat hi…

My brain is parsing how a Dutch input would sound different in Dutch? "in de put" vs "input" sounds the same, no? What is different?

Post by eloisant » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:49 AM UTC

jiofih wrote: post #251

pgcj_poster wrote: post #135

This is at best useless, and at worst harmful. If we start using languages other than English for code, then we'll end up balkanizing the software world. People in humanities departments can talk about things like "Chinese Poetry" and "Continental Philosophy," but in STEM, we should be above that nonsense. I should be able to read code written anywhere in the world and understand what it does. This is the same reason…

While it’s a good joke, in reality it does not compute. “Learning a new language” as in programming language, sits in the days-to-months range, while “learning a new language” as in Arabic takes months-to-years, so you’re building a much, much deeper chasm for others to cross and contribute, even though the source code remains English-based. You can already see this happening with some open source libraries coming fr…

Post by mattigames » Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:50 AM UTC

jiofih wrote: post #251

pgcj_poster wrote: post #135

This is at best useless, and at worst harmful. If we start using languages other than English for code, then we'll end up balkanizing the software world. People in humanities departments can talk about things like "Chinese Poetry" and "Continental Philosophy," but in STEM, we should be above that nonsense. I should be able to read code written anywhere in the world and understand what it does. This is the same reason…

While it’s a good joke, in reality it does not compute. “Learning a new language” as in programming language, sits in the days-to-months range, while “learning a new language” as in Arabic takes months-to-years, so you’re building a much, much deeper chasm for others to cross and contribute, even though the source code remains English-based. You can already see this happening with some open source libraries coming fr…