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To a machine learning algorithm, it might look kind of like the random nonsense some spammers put in spam to corrupt Bayesian filters. He might want to try temporarily taking out that signature if he’s using that as part of his emails.
This guy has an odd (seemingly nonsensical) quote in his email signature. To a machine learning algorithm, it might look kind of like the random nonsense some spammers put in spam to corrupt Bayesian filters. He might want to try temporarily taking out that signature if he’s using that as part of his emails.
OP already received a decent reply, > A quick look at Talos Intelligence reports a 1600% increase in email from your domain over the last day; email reputation os 'neutral' at this time. Not good, not bad, but neutral. > Also you're on OVH, about which a quick look through the list's archives will possibly prove instructive. It's reasonably likely (as likely as not) that you're running on an IP in a neighbourhood wit…
It's actually worse than that: > "Their network; their rules". No, it's not their network. It's our common network. If anybody imposes own rules on their part of the network, we are losing interoperability. Internet loses any sense. He apparently thinks that he (or maybe more accurately "we") should dictate how private companies treat traffic. Despite it's huge footprint, Google does not have a monopoly on email, if…
53% of email accounts in the US are with Gmail.
What's the definition of a monopoly?
Google's making us play by their rules: 1. Our ML models see that your emails spam? You're spam. 2. You're using Tor or a VPN? Here's 10 reCaptcha's. 3. Don't use Google Webmaster or use AMPs? Good luck finding your page on the 1st page. 4. Youtube video includes education hacking tutorials? Demonetized. Obviously some alternatives are moving to Fastmail and using Duck Duck Go, but we need Google to stop this "my way…
> we need Google to stop this "my way or you don't exist" What about stop being so entitled? Google is offering free awesome services for very little and you’re saying these things. It’s so demoralizing. Get off your high horse.
I don't use gmail these days (except as a honeypot out of laziness), but I get plenty of email from google hosted domains. The issue isn't (just) that people want to use these services and want Google to have more reasonable policies, there is also the issue of having to tolerate Google's policies because other people use their services.
Emails from Google servers are notable to me because there is no way to report spam (and the signal to noise ratio from Google is pretty low for my case). Google's opaque approach to email means that deliverability issues become even more tedious to deal with than they should be.
This guy has an odd (seemingly nonsensical) quote in his email signature. To a machine learning algorithm, it might look kind of like the random nonsense some spammers put in spam to corrupt Bayesian filters. He might want to try temporarily taking out that signature if he’s using that as part of his emails.
Gonna second whoever said: Use DKIM. I actually check Spam daily now, after finding support emails whose logs got snagged in the dragnet & personal stuff — even email from my Dad got shunted to Spam. I still tip the hat, though, to Google, whose algorithms are wise enough to assiduously stow both the “jump on a call” and “donate to my campaign” emails to spam.
OP already received a decent reply, > A quick look at Talos Intelligence reports a 1600% increase in email from your domain over the last day; email reputation os 'neutral' at this time. Not good, not bad, but neutral. > Also you're on OVH, about which a quick look through the list's archives will possibly prove instructive. It's reasonably likely (as likely as not) that you're running on an IP in a neighbourhood wit…
Ah yes. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. A "1600%" increase in email could be explained by 1 email yesterday, and 16 emails today. Which is in fact what he claims lower down in the thread.
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailop@mailop.org/msg09020.html
This is where HN discussion should pick up, not at the beginning where we need to rehash everything.
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailop@mailop.org/msg09020.html
This is where HN discussion should pick up, not at the beginning where we need to rehash everything.
We need a new protocol! Where e-mails are opt-in, like with messaging apps, you first need to be introduced.