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Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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I'm actually having a similar problem recently, although my messages are declined at the SMTP stage, "due to the very low reputation of the sending domain", which I attribute to the output of certain cron jobs being sent towards my own Gmail account — it seems like my whole primary domain name has subsequently been blacklisted a few weeks ago:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21340460

* https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-October/10381...

It also seems that more and more of the mailing list posts end up in the Spam folder, too. For example, I'm subscribed to the nginx list, and recently found that all the mails from one of the core developers are now in the Spam folder in Gmail.

Gmail is becoming less and less useful as days go by. If it cannot be used for the mailing lists anymore, and inbound forwarding into the account is so unreliable as well, leaves fewer and fewer reasons to continue using it, especially as it's no longer free as they've stopped their infinite storage growth, so, I now need to pay 1,99 USD/mo because I bought into their infinite storage claims back in the day, and subscribed to way too many mailing lists to fit in 15GB of space.

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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post #2

I'm actually having a similar problem recently, although my messages are declined at the SMTP stage, "due to the very low reputation of the sending domain", which I attribute to the output of certain cron jobs being sent towards my own Gmail account — it seems like my whole primary domain name has subsequently been blacklisted a few weeks ago: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21340460 * https://mailman.nanog.or…

I sometimes wonder if certain companies can get white listed.

There's a particular perfume company that sends spam to my gmail account every month. I've been marking it spam for at least five years, but somehow it always gets through.

Remarkably, Fastmail has gotten to the point where its spam filter works better than Google's for the kind of messages I get.

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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I have the problem of spammers sending emails faking they are from my domain but through hacked computers. So I get thousands of rejects. DMARC shows you where it is happening, spf can cause some of it to get blocked, but you are stuck with anyone can make up email addresses and send them out through other mail servers and in-turn your domain is certainly going to start going to spam due to this.

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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it sucks that even though i haven't actively used gmail in at least 5 years, google is still able to hoover up my personal, and what should be private, info. and this kind of anti-competitiveness, which seems to come to light occasionally and only dimly at that, stinks just as bad.

i can't wait until everyone else realizes how insidious a company google is. it's starting to happen. i'm hearing the low rumbles among (non-technical) folks i know. thank goodness!

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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The attitude of the replies he gets lower down in the thread is shocking. I hope whatever mailing list that is doesn't have any kind of good reputation, because it seems like the consensus opinion there is shockingly anti-cooperative, anti-internet, "me before the network", even going as far to say "if Google thinks you're a spammer then you probably are".

How things have changed.

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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Google's making us play by their rules:

1. Our ML models see that your emails spam? You're spam.

2. You're using Tor or a VPN? Here's 10 reCaptcha's.

3. Don't use Google Webmaster or use AMPs? Good luck finding your page on the 1st page.

4. Youtube video includes education hacking tutorials? Demonetized.

Obviously some alternatives are moving to Fastmail and using Duck Duck Go, but we need Google to stop this "my way or you don't exist" attitude before they become a huge conglomerate which controls major aspects of many people's lives (which they arguably already do) and leaves everyone (like small companies that don't use Google or just regular people who don't want a Google account) separated from the world they're forming.

Re: Gmail marking email from me as spam

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post #2

I'm actually having a similar problem recently, although my messages are declined at the SMTP stage, "due to the very low reputation of the sending domain", which I attribute to the output of certain cron jobs being sent towards my own Gmail account — it seems like my whole primary domain name has subsequently been blacklisted a few weeks ago: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21340460 * https://mailman.nanog.or…

If the mailing list is using a bulk email service, then they should use DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) and Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for identifying ownership & not getting marked as spam i.e. If they aren't really a spam.
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