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Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by jedberg »

So the crux of the story is “I had to email an internet icon and she mailed me back right away having done what I asked”.

I can sympathize. When I worked at Sendmail I was tasked with running DNS for the company, which included Sendmail.org. The first thing I had to do was find a secondary DNS. Our founder said to “email his friend Paul”.

It turned out his friend was Paul Vixie, the inventor of BIND, who responded in just a couple minutes that he had set up a-root to secondary the domains I was running.

Here I was, 22 years old at my first job, emailing with the inventor of critical internet infrastructure who was relying on a database I ran as a source of truth.

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

> Dear Sir,

In Finnish culture is this considered a generic term of address? From the write up it seems like the author knew that Joyce K. Reynolds was on the IANA but still addressed the email to “Dear Sir”.

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by wolco »

egtiller wrote: post #27

This makes me wonder. What such booming technology is there right now where I can contribute something like this and make a mark for myself? Having born much later in the history of Internet, I think I have missed out on many of the early magical years of the Internet. But if I can get involved in some other technology that is in early stage and booming and where I have a chance to contribute something that may becom…

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Re: How SSH Port Became 22

#34

Post by kilpikaarna »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #32

> Dear Sir, In Finnish culture is this considered a generic term of address? From the write up it seems like the author knew that Joyce K. Reynolds was on the IANA but still addressed the email to “Dear Sir”.

No. "Dear sir" sounds like something he picked up in high school English class, taught for use when addressing an unknown recipient.

If writing this in Finnish you'd normally use something very close to "Dear Mr Reynolds".

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by nineteen999 »

jedberg wrote: post #31

So the crux of the story is “I had to email an internet icon and she mailed me back right away having done what I asked”. I can sympathize. When I worked at Sendmail I was tasked with running DNS for the company, which included Sendmail.org. The first thing I had to do was find a secondary DNS. Our founder said to “email his friend Paul”. It turned out his friend was Paul Vixie, the inventor of BIND, who responded in…

> When I worked at Sendmail

> Here I was, 22 years old at my first job, emailing with the inventor of critical internet infrastructure who was relying on a database I ran as a source of truth.

But you were working for a company who employed or was started by the creator of Sendmail, Eric Allman? Surely you were already rubbing shoulders with the Internet giants of old?

According to Wikipedia, "in 1996, approximately 80% of the publicly reachable mail-servers on the Internet ran Sendmail".

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

#36

Post by Ndymium »

kilpikaarna wrote: post #34
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #32

> Dear Sir, In Finnish culture is this considered a generic term of address? From the write up it seems like the author knew that Joyce K. Reynolds was on the IANA but still addressed the email to “Dear Sir”.

No. "Dear sir" sounds like something he picked up in high school English class, taught for use when addressing an unknown recipient. If writing this in Finnish you'd normally use something very close to "Dear Mr Reynolds".

Most of us rarely write such formal letters. I don't remember when is the last time I've written something as formal for a Finnish recipient.

At school I was taught to use "Dear Sir or Madam" or "To whom it may concern" but neither of those sound natural, they're just learned. If writing for a Finn, I just start with "Hei" ("Hey") (in fact that has lead me to start emails in English with just "Hey" as well). I may have used some other formality once or twice in my life when it was required for school or such matters but not as an adult.

So it may be that they were out of their element when writing that email and just put the first thing that came to their mind.

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by gumby »

throw0101a wrote: post #3

Personally I find how/why FTP uses two ports, 20 and 21, to be more interesting: So the first thing to know is the FTP is 'old', in that it predates TCP and originally ran on NCP: > The original specification for the File Transfer Protocol was written by Abhay Bhushan and published as RFC 114 on 16 April 1971. Until 1980, FTP ran on NCP, the predecessor of TCP/IP.[2] The protocol was later replaced by a TCP/IP versio…

FTP was also how mail was transported in the NCP days (and you'll notice that RFC 733 still refers to FTP mail for back compatibility).

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by jedberg »

nineteen999 wrote: post #35
jedberg wrote: post #31

So the crux of the story is “I had to email an internet icon and she mailed me back right away having done what I asked”. I can sympathize. When I worked at Sendmail I was tasked with running DNS for the company, which included Sendmail.org. The first thing I had to do was find a secondary DNS. Our founder said to “email his friend Paul”. It turned out his friend was Paul Vixie, the inventor of BIND, who responded in…

> When I worked at Sendmail > Here I was, 22 years old at my first job, emailing with the inventor of critical internet infrastructure who was relying on a database I ran as a source of truth. But you were working for a company who employed or was started by the creator of Sendmail, Eric Allman? Surely you were already rubbing shoulders with the Internet giants of old? According to Wikipedia, "in 1996, approximately…

> Surely you were already rubbing shoulders with the Internet giants of old?

I was, but I just didn't see Eric that way, I guess because I saw him all the time? I mean looking back, there were quire a few Internet giants that either worked there or hung out at the office, but that email with Paul was the one that really got me. Maybe because the response was that data I was creating was getting mirrored to a-root.

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by takeda »

jedberg wrote: post #31

So the crux of the story is “I had to email an internet icon and she mailed me back right away having done what I asked”. I can sympathize. When I worked at Sendmail I was tasked with running DNS for the company, which included Sendmail.org. The first thing I had to do was find a secondary DNS. Our founder said to “email his friend Paul”. It turned out his friend was Paul Vixie, the inventor of BIND, who responded in…

Paul did not invent/created BIND, in fact BIND was created 8 years before he took over its maintenance.

BIND was created in Berkeley by grad students (probably that's why originally was so buggy) and the name stands for Berkeley Internet Name Domain. Paul of course made major contributions to DNS and of course BIND.

Re: How SSH Port Became 22

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Post by omeid2 »

egtiller wrote: post #27

This makes me wonder. What such booming technology is there right now where I can contribute something like this and make a mark for myself? Having born much later in the history of Internet, I think I have missed out on many of the early magical years of the Internet. But if I can get involved in some other technology that is in early stage and booming and where I have a chance to contribute something that may becom…

Probably something that looks like a toy.

https://cdixon.org/2010/01/03/the-next-big-thing-will-start-...

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