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Earliest known draft of the King James Bible discovered

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Re: Earliest known draft of the King James Bible discovered

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Does anyone know whether or not the language of the king James bible was typical of early 17th century English? I heard that the translators use archaic expressions no longer commonly used in 1604 for stylistic reasons.

Yes, it took a number of phrases from previous English translations.

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This may be off-topic but is there any consensus on what is the most accurate translation of the bible into English?

I haven't looked into it, but this might be interesting to you: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/magazine/hebrew-bible-tra...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was the verse?

Not OP but Psalm 37:8b[0] is my go to verse for this. I grew up reading, hearing, & memorizing out of the KJV and kind of prided myself in being able to understand that style of English. Even knowing various words & phrases have changed,I still have no idea what they verse would have meant to the original readers. I can look at a modern translation & see what it "should" say,but wow, I just can't get there from the K…

I understand you are not OP.

I am confused as to whether the word "fret" is considered archaic. I'd settle on "used more often 100 years ago" or something similar, but I have doubts and curiosity.

Re: Earliest known draft of the King James Bible discovered

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This may be off-topic but is there any consensus on what is the most accurate translation of the bible into English?

The Douay-Rheims translation is the most accurate. You can directly reconstruct the latin[1] from it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douay–Rheims_Bible#Modern_Harv...

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Why is this posted on HN? What if something from Judaism or Islam was discovered etc Why would HN readers care about this? We’re here for the tech, not the white supremacy (Jesus as white, King James, etc) or the Roman derived mythology.

>What if something from Judaism or Islam was discovered etc Why would HN readers care about this? Apparently so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18895717 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21128804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15546761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20856121

But to be fair, this is the discovery of an earlier draft of a translation of a book. It's not exactly a cultural moment that directly intersects secular life like all of the examples you have cited above.

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Do religious groups in the US, specifically, Christians, talk about the history of the King James Bible? Why is it, uh, trusted by so many, when stuff like this hints at a storied construction?

I grew up in a religious family and community and I asked the same question! There was a debate among people about which version to use and anything but the King James version was wrong. Why? Because of Revelation 22:18,19 18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19. A…

"The Bible" in its current form didn't exist at the time the book of Revelations was written. So clearly it could only be talking about the book of Revelations otherwise the act of compiling the Bible would be violating this warning.

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This may be off-topic but is there any consensus on what is the most accurate translation of the bible into English?

The NET bible has very extensive translation notes. Basically anytime something is even slightly ambiguous there's a note with information on what the ambiguity is and why they went with the translation they went with.

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This may be off-topic but is there any consensus on what is the most accurate translation of the bible into English?

There's a reason traditional Jews read the five books of Moses in the original Hebrew (and why I was raised to be fluent in Hebrew, and also studied Aramaic, in addition to the Yiddish we used for daily conversation at home and the English I used outside in the United States).

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I'm ignorant enough to have only read the first five books (Genesis through Deuteronomy), Ecclesiastes, and a scattering of quotes from other books of the bible. I started reading that piece of the old testament after going through some translated Sumerian/Babylonian works and commentary about the relation of the old testament to other pan-Mesopotamian theology, and I feel like it's pretty interesting from that persp…

Comparison with other contemporary religious practices is a much neglected aspect of lay Bible study. For many people the Old Testament is the only ancient Middle Eastern text they'll ever read.
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