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I wouldn't say 'lifted'. They were straight reading manifesto itself, not pretending that it's something else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwozkbmjzC4
It's funny how the hacker says, "Cool" and the reader said, "Cool? It's not cool. It's commie bullshit." Honest question: Which one is correct?
There was a time when being a hacker meant one understood a system and bent the rules to get that system to do something else. These days, being a hacker seems to mean producing crap and not taking any responsability for it.
Hackerspaces are a huge relief. Many of them are the last bastion of computing not being spoiled by capitalism.
>> Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Here's a thought. A smart person realises that everyone around them thinks they're smarter than everyone else around them, and that everyone can't be right at the same time, which must mean that most are wrong. Which in turn means that, to be the one person who is right to think they're smarter t…
There was a time when "hacker" meant "a wizard's wizard"; and a time where it meant a digital vandal over POTS lines; and a time where reclaiming the word "hacker" became fashionable; and important computer hackers began quietly wearing the word; and then there was the time where marketers became growth hackers and musicians became harmony hackers. But the digital vandals never fully wrested away the word from AI lab…
and a time where it meant a digital vandal over POTS lines; Well, those were "phreakers." In the 70's, "hacker" was a person who "hacked" out the credits from public domain software and put their own name in it for resale. And you bought it anyway because software was so hard to come by.
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Today's world would be very different had a few things happen slightly differently. Back in 1986 there was no way to predict the web. Or ISP's or widespread adoption of IP networks. There was no way to predict open source would eventually win. In 1986 I was using a Minitel system to do banking from home, communicating through a couple BBSs, from an Apple II and an MSX. We were discussing Xanadu, SGML, and the latest…
Your point is taken but I think we're coming at it from different places. I think something did go majorly wrong.
IMO you're both correct, just referring to different times.
It went mostly right, then it went mostly wrong
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I wouldn't say 'lifted'. They were straight reading manifesto itself, not pretending that it's something else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwozkbmjzC4
It's funny how the hacker says, "Cool" and the reader said, "Cool? It's not cool. It's commie bullshit." Honest question: Which one is correct?
See also, Bruce Sterling's "The Hacker Crackdown", an historical account of the era: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker_Crackdown . Some of the players involved, including from 2600 Magazine and DefCon, are still active today.
>> Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me... Here's a thought. A smart person realises that everyone around them thinks they're smarter than everyone else around them, and that everyone can't be right at the same time, which must mean that most are wrong. Which in turn means that, to be the one person who is right to think they're smarter t…
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Hackerspaces are a huge relief. Many of them are the last bastion of computing not being spoiled by capitalism.
Can you give some examples?
All of them are community supported, non-profit and doing some fairly advanced stuff in some domain areas (security, electronics, machining, ...).
The first part of the manifesto made me feel for the author. Its unfortunate that they never got to attend a school where they were sufficiently challenged and around peers of similar ability/interest. There are many cities/countries around the world that place advanced students in advanced classes with like-minded peers, and it is unfortunate that the public school system in this country seems backward in that regar…