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Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
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Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The "Start" button was never really about starting things in the first place. What did you find when you opened the Start menu ( https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Windows_95_St... )? Programs (click on one to start the program), Documents (click to start a program handling the file), Settings (click to start a Control Panel applet), Find (click to start a find dialog), Help (click to start the help vie…
This reminds me of the best "feature" that windows 95 had to me as a kid. If you clicked the start menu, then hit alt + -, you'd get the standard menu for playing with a window. Minimize, Maximize, Move (greyed out), and a few others. Importantly though was that Close was an option. Clicking it would remove the start button. This lead to lots of fun playing with computers in stores at the time, closing the start butt…
move worked to begin with, that was even more fun
they fixed it some way through Win98 I thought...
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#133I think this might be a case where keyboard shortcuts are more descriptive and fool proof than trying to use tech specific phrases like "Go to Start menu".
"Hold down the windows key on the keyboard and press the S key while the windows key is held down, and then type notepad and press enter".
And if they get hung up finding the windows key on the keyboard you can explain it by saying it's likely near the bottom left in between the ctrl and alt keys and has the 4 squares.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that outdated symbols won't be a problem for younger generations, but for different reasons. The "save" icon has long stopped being a floppy disk. It may still look like one (to those who know the object depicted), but it is identified as just "save" and nothing more. If people would identify it with portable media instead of the act of storing the current document, they would also try to use it for loading a…
> but how many streamed Friends who completely missed it's original run? 23 year old here. I had never seen Friends, thus I never had any nostalgic interest in visiting it. One weekend last year I had an onsite interview in Denver just before a blizzard hit, snowing me into a Motel 6 for 2 days. No wifi, so I did nothing but watch Friends and Seinfeld reruns on the TV. Probably the first time I'd used a television in…
Thank you for making half of us readers feel old and decrepit. Your work here is done.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#135This is a pretty fun submission. I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. > This answer is not helpful. There is no start button. Because it's just a little windows icon now - easy to forget that that doesn't just make sense to some people. > Thank you, Brian- I would surely never have looked there, for anything, never…
I was troubleshooting WhatsApp over the phone for a relative work different hardware... Took me a bit of time to realize "solid triangle-ish" was wifi and "cup" was microphone. But for the Gen-Z and after, how would you intuitively represent Save and Call to people who've never seen a floppy disk or a phone handset?
For save I've seen an arrow pointing into a folder (opposite of the typical 'open') or a computery-looking grey square with an arrow pointing downwards overlaid.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#136Everyone is looking down on the users, but they're right. Usually the most correct UI design is the most obvious one, and showing off how clever you are might make the designer feel smart, but it makes the consumer feel dumb. It's one of the reasons I now live almost exclusively in the terminal. The terrible Windows redesigns are usually justified as being more intuitive to users who aren't "powerusers," but when you can't even get something as trivial as opening notepad consistent and logical, whose fault is that? Not the users. The users are just using the abstractions Windows gives them and it's failing becaus Windows didn't implement it correctly.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#137This is a pretty fun submission. I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. > This answer is not helpful. There is no start button. Because it's just a little windows icon now - easy to forget that that doesn't just make sense to some people. > Thank you, Brian- I would surely never have looked there, for anything, never…
> I like peering into the lives of computer users that don't have the level of computer literacy I'm used to day to day. It's a good reminder. Yep and sometimes it happens in unexpected places. I just went to the dentist the other day. The receptionist accidentally moved her task bar to be oriented vertically on the left and couldn't get it back to the horizontal bottom position. We're on very friendly terms so she a…
The only problem with that is that Sharif don’t like it.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#138Its sad but to find anything on win10 ...just search. How are non power users supposed to know this.
Especially the search results are non deterministic, order seems to shift, and it's slow at times, and it puts tons of irrelevant crap in it.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Floppy disk, sure. But phone handset? Old movies and TV shows set in the past will keep that image alive like it did for us with knowing what phones looked like before our time. Unless you think movies/TV will go away too...
I agree that outdated symbols won't be a problem for younger generations, but for different reasons. The "save" icon has long stopped being a floppy disk. It may still look like one (to those who know the object depicted), but it is identified as just "save" and nothing more. If people would identify it with portable media instead of the act of storing the current document, they would also try to use it for loading a…
I Love Lucy had fans over generations thanks to reruns. I've mentioned the show a few times in conversations with people in their early 20s and usually they have never heard of it.
Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The windows button looks more like a flag than a window, nothing to do with starting anything!
The "Start" button was never really about starting things in the first place. After all, clicking "Start" was the first step to shutting down your computer! Perfectly intuitive... Now it doesn't even say "Start" on it, and yet they persist in calling it the "Start menu".
"Start" does not refer to starting things, it refers to the first button you need to click to make the computer do things, i.e. it's the starting point for doing anything. In a bare Windows 95 install, you have your "My Computer" and "My Documents" icons on the desktop and to do everything else you start by clicking on "Start". I don't think I could come up with a better name for the button that serves as the starting point of almost any interaction. Nothing else comes to mind that will both communicate the button's purpose and simultaneously entice users who don't know what to do to click it.