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Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by sasnfbi1234 »

blaser-waffle wrote: post #79
class4behavior wrote: post #51

Since no one posted that, yet: Tor relies on the size the of its network to counteract blocks, prevent take overs, and naturally ensure stability as well as performance. You can either donate to various groups running Tor servers, the developers, or take part on your own. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Tor https://www.torservers.net/ https://www.dfri.se/donera/ https://nos-oignons.net/ https://donate.torproject.org…

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Well it’s a open project of the naval intelligence unit and it’s primary designed case was a deep cover operative in foreign countries reporting back info to the CIA, etc .

The (non CIA ) people who use it primarily act as traffic in order to improve the security for operatives . Your Mileage May very

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by snagglegaggle »

driverdan wrote: post #122
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Donations are probably better, because while that hardware is helpful, it's the ISP connections that are hard to come by. If you host a Tor exit node on your home network connection, Comcast is likely going to shut down your service for abuse/TOS violations. Having some rack space in a datacenter is far more valuable and better supported by donations.

The network needs both. Too much centralization is a threat to anonymity so it needs users running nodes. At the same time you shouldn't run an exit at home on a consumer connection. Relays are fine though.

Saying you shouldn't run an exit node at home is accepting that Tor has mainly fraudulent uses. More people need to run it from home so it becomes accepted as a normal Internet usecase.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by snagglegaggle »

driverdan wrote: post #129
blaser-waffle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Both if possible. A Pi 3 can saturate its ethernet adapter (~50Mbps) running a Tor relay. It's reasonably straightforward to setup. You shouldn't run exit nodes from a home connection due to possible abuse. If a person uses it to do something illegal you may end up with law enforcement busting down your door. Relays are safe though.

At least in the US law enforcement can't charge you with anything. More people need to run exit relays, especially from home, so it becomes an accepted use.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by edm0nd »

sasnfbi1234 wrote: post #231
blaser-waffle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

Well it’s a open project of the naval intelligence unit and it’s primary designed case was a deep cover operative in foreign countries reporting back info to the CIA, etc . The (non CIA ) people who use it primarily act as traffic in order to improve the security for operatives . Your Mileage May very

The CIA actually has its own v3 onion, http://ciadotgov4sjwlzihbbgxnqg3xiyrg7so2r2o3lt5wz5ypk4sxyjs...

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by edm0nd »

steeleduncan wrote: post #185

Potentially I am misunderstanding how Tor's onion routing works, but according to https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html there are about 6000 tor relays right now. Surely if some well funded organisation (Eve) were to install a similar number of relays itself, then it is reasonably likely that for a given user a packet would eventually travel across relays solely owned by Eve, and at that point Eve could map…

Relays that are detected or flagged as malicious get quickly removed from the network, https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/badRelays

More reading: https://blog.torproject.org/how-report-bad-relays

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by jvehent »

cwkoss wrote: post #230
class4behavior wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services will start to blacklist your IP as a proxy. Conversely, if you're engaging in illegal online behavior from your home IP, intermittently running a TOR exit node could be a useful mechanism for creating plausible deniability.

IANAL, and I wouldn't try explaining that to a prosecutor or a federal judge...

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by uryga »

bb123 wrote: post #133
uryga wrote: post #124

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i was referring to the fact that last time i checked, HN stripped emoji. hold on let me check: edit: yeah, my cat got removed :/ I guess they're distinguished by unicode block: the regional indicator letters are "Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement", and emoji are "Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs". still not sure why remove them though

Can you see my UN flag? I also posted one of their easter island faces but that got stripped.

actually no, i can't! it just shows "U N" in a bold blue capital letters, which explains some of the confusion i guess. (Android 7.0)

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by Mobius01 »

jonplackett wrote: post #2

Finally a good use for my license fee! (Aside from David Attenborough documentaries, they’ve always been worth it)

I’m very grateful for all paying the license fees. Through the BBCs language education programs I was able to learn English and it changed the course of my life. So thank you!

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by edm0nd »

snodnipper wrote: post #46
andrewaylett wrote: post #37

I know there are good reasons why it's not fully secure, but I'd really like to be able to access `.onion` addresses in my regular browser over TOR and everything else directly as usual. In _this_ I'm not over-worried about the risk of deanonymisation as my aim is on one hand access to resources I don't have access to now and on the other hand legitimisation of TOR as something that anyone could reasonably use, even…

you can download the brave.com browser for desktop, which supports Tor. After creating a Tor tab I could view https://www.bbcnewsv2vjtpsuy.onion/ without issue

You should not use Brave Browser to access .onion websites. It makes you easier to target and identify and you stand out.

Tor Browser has millions of active daily users VS Brave Browser has only a very small amount.

Re: BBC News launches 'dark web' Tor mirror

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Post by zahllos »

class4behavior wrote: post #97
blaser-waffle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to donate, or to just pool a little cash and start your own? Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? I ask because I have 5-6 Raspberry Pis, a couple retired Supermicro boxes, and old Cisco gear that isn't doing much...

>Like, how do I know any of those links aren't the NSA? Well, I've only linked to communities listed by the Tor Project itself. Otherwise, the same way you would check whether HN or your local tea store is the NSA. You do your own research, run your own risk analysis, and if you want to stay sane, by default you give people the benefit of the doubt. Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services wil…

> Generally, it's best not to run Tor relays from home as services will start to blacklist your IP as a proxy.

I think this also specifically refers to exit nodes, no ? Running an intermediate relay should be fine as you'll only be shuffling encrypted tor traffic to other relays.

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