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Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Agenttin »

EamonnMR wrote: post #40
basch wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it appears when you start typing. This is a shockingly common problem for people. I can tell they feel uncomfortable just typing without a place "where" the typing will go. Many people will click the magnifying glass and then again place the cursor into the search field. Same with google, they will click the search field, then the cursor moves to the address bar, they feel surprise, and then place the cursor in the…

In many applications (JIRA, Vim) typing without being in a text input field can cause all kinds of trouble. Heck, in browsers if you type 'backspace' you can end up going back and page and blowing away all of your precious form input. Not to mention the very real possibility that their work, the text they've typed, will be dropped on the floor. We have been trained by these dangers to avoid typing without a text prom…

This is why Google switched the 'Back' function to Alt+Left Arrow in Chrome. You could be trying to delete something out of a web form and accidentally leave the page.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by smhenderson »

workthrowaway wrote: post #8

wow, just realized some of us have been using shortcuts for so long that we don't know when things get moved. also the "windows" key argument was kinda moot because most keyboard have a key that isn't a "windows" key but works similar...

we don't know when things get moved

But did it get moved? The article is from 2015 and I didn't start using 10 until 2018 so I don't know where it was then but as of today I can find Notepad on the Start Menu under Windows Accessories. I feel like that's where it's always been. It's called Windows Accessories now instead of just Accessories but surely that's not enough to confuse people so much?

As with most everyone here of course I don't launch it from there, I do Win^R, notepad, enter just like I do for calc, excel and winword. But if I never learned how to do that and always relied on the menu shortcut I feel like it never really moved that far from where it's always been.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by TeMPOraL »

netsharc wrote: post #67
prepend wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer txt files for config and notes. I don’t care about formatting so word or word pad are too much. I also use notepad as my goto “paste without formatting” as it’s typically faster to wash the clipboard through notepad than use whatever “paste special” ui an app has.

Ah "washing the clipboard", I guess that's the term for it. I turn on the address toolbar on the taskbar (underneath all the icons); it's great to navigate to files/directories by typing (especially with auto-complete, which wasn't there on Windows 9x!), and I also use it for "clipboard washing".

I call it "sanitizing clipboard", and I usually use either Win+R or browser address bar (Ctrl+L), whichever is quicker, for 95% cases, in which I have only one line of text to sanitize. In the remaining 5% cases, I go through Notepad. On Linux I don't have a Win+R equivalent, so I always use a browser or Emacs session, whichever quicker to switch to.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by Animats »

basch wrote: post #21
gruez wrote: post #9

>Step 1: > Go to Start menu. > Type notepad and press Enter. >I tried Step 1 prior to posting here. It doesn't work! Works for me on the latest windows. Granted, there's no textbox to type into, but it appears when you start typing.

>it appears when you start typing. This is a shockingly common problem for people. I can tell they feel uncomfortable just typing without a place "where" the typing will go. Many people will click the magnifying glass and then again place the cursor into the search field. Same with google, they will click the search field, then the cursor moves to the address bar, they feel surprise, and then place the cursor in the…

That's a terrible idea. Once people have been trained to do that, attackers can probably get them to type their password somewhere they shouldn't.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by cesarb »

dTal wrote: post #59
pradn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The windows button looks more like a flag than a window, nothing to do with starting anything!

The "Start" button was never really about starting things in the first place. After all, clicking "Start" was the first step to shutting down your computer! Perfectly intuitive... Now it doesn't even say "Start" on it, and yet they persist in calling it the "Start menu".

> The "Start" button was never really about starting things in the first place.

What did you find when you opened the Start menu (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Windows_95_St...)? Programs (click on one to start the program), Documents (click to start a program handling the file), Settings (click to start a Control Panel applet), Find (click to start a find dialog), Help (click to start the help viewer), Run (click to start an executable by name), ...

> After all, clicking "Start" was the first step to shutting down your computer!

You are, after all, starting the shutdown procedure.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by bahrd »

wiseleo wrote: post #69
DannyB2 wrote: post #52

Fifteen years ago, one of the Microsoft fanboy arguments against both Linux and LibreOffice (then OpenOffice.org) was that neither worked exactly like Windows / Office. Then Microsoft comes along and changes everything. The Ribbon instead of the pull down menus. Now which office suite works more like what users have used for a couple decades? Windows 8 comes along with a totally different UI. So different that ordina…

Office 2007 ribbon was a terrible release. I am an Office power user and I still have to dig through well hidden “advanced” dialog boxes that were previously exposed in the UI to do things that I remember Office was capable of doing. I still hate that change.

Weird thing to think about too was that it came out right as we were seeing 16x9 monitors become the standard. So you have more real estate on the sides but MS decides to just take a big old chunk of the top away on all of their Office products. I still haven't bothered to relearn all of the shortcuts since then either, used to be nice since you had the pull-down menus as a sort of training wheel.

Re: Where is Notepad in Windows 10? (2015)

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Post by carapace »

ogre_magi wrote: post #37

I have a hard time considering people who aren't natural power-users of technology human. I recognize that this is a failing of mine.

Brave of you to admit it, even here.

I have a similar problem: I'm so goddamned intelligent that this world seems like the movie "Idiocracy" to me. ( I can't watch it: it's too painful. )

When I was younger, this advice from the Book of the Subgenius helped me a lot to get by, "Act like a dumbass and they'll treat you like an equal."

Eventually, I calculated the existence of God, called out "Ollie Ollie Oxen Free", and He showed up and Shook my hand.

Since then my intelligence has been idling: there's nothing further to compute. That, combined with diligent administration of THC, has brought my general intelligence level down to that of an average smart person.

Here's the thing: now that I experience it for myself, normal intelligence is terrifying. It's no wonder everyone is always so stressed out and worried. Their brains are not adequate to the complex artificial world we have built for ourselves. (Are you familiar with the "Peter Principle"? That's what we've done: not promoting people to level their level of incompetence, rather the world has grown complex to the point where most people are now incompetent, through no fault of their own.)

Robert Anton Wilson points out, "Under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. We have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. We have never seen a totally sane human being."

What I'm saying is, pity them, they know not what they do.

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